A revolution in thought

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

David, you're a sick dude with a grudge.

He's not the sick bitch cutting dogs' heads off. Why would you do that? What the hell is wrong with you?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You've been banned everywhere or you would not be commenting on one little corner of the internet that you feel threatened by. Is this all you have left?

Talking to yourself again?

#MentalFog

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

To my left is a door marked, “Man’s Will Is Not Free.” To my right, I see a door I never noticed before. It is marked, “Your Little Adolf Is Still Alive.”

Overjoyed, I lurch to my feet and totter toward that door (my arthritis makes walking difficult.) I open it. Inside there is a cola vending machine. I approach it and begin dropping into the slot – not coins, but something else. Uncooked macaroni bits? Then I have to depress a lever to get the cola.

The cola is poor little Adolf's immortality. The uncooked macaroni bits are germinal substance.

[peacegirl]

"Space is 4D" -- Theory Claims that Time is Not the 4th Dimension
April 16, 2012

Einstein never interpreted time "t" as a fourth dimension of space. Space is not 3D + T, space is 4D. With clocks we measure numerical order of material change. This numerical order is the only time that exists in a physical world. With this approach all immediate information transfers of quantum physics are explained in a more appropriate way. 4D space is a medium of quantum information transfers.

Scientists at the Scientific Research Centre Bistra in Ptuj, Slovenia, theorize that this Newtonian idea of time as an absolute quantity that flows on its own, along with the idea that time is the fourth dimension of spacetime, are incorrect. They propose to replace these concepts of time with a view that corresponds more accurately to the physical world: time as a measure of the numerical order of change.

In April of 2011, in two papers in Physics Essays, Amrit Sorli, Davide Fiscaletti, and Dusan Klinar, begin by explaining how we usually assume that time is an absolute physical quantity that plays the role of the independent variable (time, t, is often the x-axis on graphs that show the evolution of a physical system). But, as they note, we never really measure t. What we do measure is an object’s frequency and speed. But, by itself, t has only a mathematical value, and no primary physical existence.

cont. at: "Space is 4D" -- Theory Claims that Time is Not the 4th Dimension - The Daily Galaxy --Great Discoveries Channel

[But]

[ChuckF]

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

He was right about many things. But GPS systems don't require general relativity.

[Stephen Maturin]

peacegirl's path of greater satisfaction involves pretending that she knows how GPS works and what general relativity is, as well as disagreeing with Lessans. Fortunately, we have the Authentic Text to set things right.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl's path of greater satisfaction involves pretending that she knows how GPS works and what general relativity is, as well as disagreeing with Lessans. Fortunately, we have the Authentic Text to set things right.

Lessans made a general statement that Einstein was right. He was right about certain things. For example, he knew how to build an atomic bomb but he was proven to be right through empirical evidence. GPS systems do not require general relativity which has been shown.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Lessans made a general statement that Einstein was right. He was right about certain things. For example, he knew how to build an atomic bomb but he was proven to be right through empirical evidence. GPS systems do not require general relativity which has been shown.

Dear, this new bee in your itsy-bitsy bonnet is quite amusing. Even Flo knows that GPS must conform to general relativity, and I’m just a professor emeritus of home economics at Chester Alan Arthur Junior High School. In any case, it is sad to see you spitting on your father again, who affirmed not only that Einstein was right, but must have been right. Why do you hate, fear, and resent your father, dear?

But this is neither here nor there. This is an attempt on your part to divert discussion from the Authentic Text. But no matter what you do or say, we here at shall continue to analyze and interpret the Authentic Text as written and published by the author in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from you.

#TrueStewardship
#ripAdolf
#MentalFog

[ChuckF]

My friends, there was a fiery dragon guarding the key to the Authentic Text. First, I, as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, had to show that the Corrupted Text is Corrupt so we could come face to face with the fiery dragon, and I proved it in a mathematically undeniable manner. Then I jabbed him in the right eye, then the left; then I cut out his tongue (I took fencing lessons for this job), and finally I pierced him in the heart. We are certain he is dead. There is no authentic text but the Authentic Text, and all other texts are corrupt, as is the Corrupted Text!

To all those who helped me to slay the mighty dragon of the Corrupted Text, I say thank you!

To all those dozens, hundreds, thousands of silent lurkers who read this thread to watch the mighty dragon of the Corrupted Text felled by the might of the Authentic Text in the hands of the True Steward, remember it well! And go forth and say: "The Corrupted Text must be rejected, for it is Corrupt. We shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime."

And to all of those multitudes yet unborn who will one day study this thread and my role as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I say Greetings!, and advise you to beware of Corruptors who hawk their Corrupted Text for lucre. There is but one authentic text, and that is the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and I am its True Steward.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

My friends, there was a fiery dragon guarding the key to the Authentic Text. First, I, as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, had to show that the Corrupted Text is Corrupt so we could come face to face with the fiery dragon, and I proved it in a mathematically undeniable manner. Then I jabbed him in the right eye, then the left; then I cut out his tongue (I took fencing lessons for this job), and finally I pierced him in the heart. We are certain he is dead. There is no authentic text but the Authentic Text, and all other texts are corrupt, as is the Corrupted Text!

To all those who helped me to slay the mighty dragon of the Corrupted Text, I say thank you!

To all those dozens, hundreds, thousands of silent lurkers who read this thread to watch the mighty dragon of the Corrupted Text felled by the might of the Authentic Text in the hands of the True Steward, remember it well! And go forth and say: "The Corrupted Text must be rejected, for it is Corrupt. We shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime."

And to all of those multitudes yet unborn who will one day study this thread and my role as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I say Greetings!, and advise you to beware of Corruptors who hawk their Corrupted Text for lucre. There is but one authentic text, and that is the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and I am its True Steward.

#ChuckIsAnImposter

[Florence Jellem]

#DragonSlayer

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

The Geometry of Relativity and why your GPS works - YouTube

GPS & Relativity - YouTube

Why GPS wouldn't work if we didn't know about relativity - YouTube

GPS systems do not require special relativity to work.

Originally Posted by ChuckF

The Geometry of Relativity and why your GPS works - YouTube

GPS & Relativity - YouTube

Why GPS wouldn't work if we didn't know about relativity - YouTube

GPS systems do not require special relativity to work.

In a nutshell:

General Relativity predicts that clocks go slower in a higher gravitational field. That is the clock aboard the GPS satellites "clicks" faster than the clock down on Earth.
Also, Special Relativity predicts that a moving clock is slower than the stationary one. So this effect will slow the clock compared to the one down on Earth.
As you see, in this case the two effects are acting in opposite direction but their magnitude is not equal, thus don't cancel each other out.

Now, you find out your position by comparing the time signal from a number of satellites. They are at different distance from you and it then takes different time for the signal to reach you. Thus the signal of "Satellite A says right now it is 22:31:12" will be different from what you'll hear Satellite B at the same moment). From the time difference of the signal and knowing the satellites positions (your GPS knows that) you can triangulate your position on the ground.

If one does not compensate for the different clock speeds, the distance measurement would be wrong and the position estimation could be hundreds or thousands of meters or more off, making the GPS system essentially useless.

Why does GPS depend on relativity? - Physics Stack Exchange

[peacegirl]

What the Global Positioning System Tells Us about Relativity

What is the GPS?

The Global Positioning System (GPS) consists of a network of 24 satellites in roughly 12-hour orbits, each carrying atomic clocks on board. The orbital radius of the satellites is about four Earth-radii (26,600 km). The orbits are nearly circular, with a typical eccentricity of less than 1%. Orbital inclination to the Earth’s equator is typically 55 degrees. The satellites have orbital speeds of about 3.9 km/s in a frame centered on the Earth and not rotating with respect to the distant stars. Nominally, the satellites occupy one of six equally spaced orbital planes. Four of them occupy each plane, spread at roughly 90-degree intervals around the Earth in that plane. The precise orbital periods of the satellites are close to 11 hours and 58 minutes so that the ground tracks of the satellites repeat day after day, because the Earth makes one rotation with respect to the stars about every 23 hours and 56 minutes. (Four extra minutes are required for a point on the Earth to return to a position directly under the Sun because the Sun advances about one degree per day with respect to the stars.)

cont. at: What the Global Positioning System Tells Us about Relativity - AETHERFORCE

Comment: David Thomson · John A. Logan College
Tom continued to ignore the fact that the ionospheric correction that is required for the GPS system to keep accurate time is orders of magnitude greater than the SR correction. There is no way for the GPS system to verify SR except in a true believer's imagination. Anybody who has studied this problem with an open mind, and not bound to take a side to protect his or her career, can see that the GPS system could just as easily maintain its current accuracy without a single relativistic correction.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why does GPS depend on relativity? - Physics Stack Exchange

Originally Posted by peacegirl

What the Global Positioning System Tells Us about Relativity - AETHERFORCE

peacegirl, you've just cited two sources which, while characteristically weird and unsuitable, advance positions directly opposite the proposition that you cited them to support. I can't quite decide if this is funnier, less funny, or as funny as when you cite Holocaust deniers.

In any event, peacegirl, this is why you are an unreliable defender of the Authentic Text. You merely founder about attempting to hawk your Corrupted Text for lucre, as you reject and have forgotten the Authentic Text.

Fortunately, I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text, and your hapless whimpering can no longer be a hurt to the Authentic Text.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl, you've just cited two sources which, while characteristically weird and unsuitable, advance positions directly opposite the proposition that you cited them to support. I can't quite decide if this is funnier, less funny, or as funny as when you cite Holocaust deniers.

In any event, peacegirl, this is why you are an unreliable defender of the Authentic Text. You merely founder about attempting to hawk your Corrupted Text for lucre, as you reject and have forgotten the Authentic Text.

Fortunately, I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text, and your hapless whimpering can no longer be a hurt to the Authentic Text.

#ChuckIsABigFatPhony

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

#ChuckIsABigFatPhony

Yes, precisely like that!

peacegirl, while it is a hurt to the Authentic Text for you to reject the Authentic Text as "phony," I do not blame you for it. Because as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I protect the Authentic Text from the rain of blameful first blows to which you subject the Authentic Text and the Author.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Yes, precisely like that!

peacegirl, while it is a hurt to the Authentic Text for you to reject the Authentic Text as "phony," I do not blame you for it. Because as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I protect the Authentic Text from the rain of blameful first blows to which you subject the Authentic Text and the Author.

Chuck has no inkling of what the discovery is about.

#ChuckIsABigFatPhony

[ChuckF]

peacegirl, we reject your Corrupted Text. We shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from you. This is the essence of True Stewardship.

[Stephen Maturin]

#peacegirlResentsLessans

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[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

#peacegirlResentsLessans

Three Dog Night - Easy To Be Hard (Suitable For Framing 1969) - YouTube

Maturin is out for the lulz. And this is a guy people who are new here are listening to? May god help them!

[thedoc]

Many posts ago someone mentioned that GPS worked because of our understanding of GR, and this disproves Lessans and her claim of instant vision. So Peacegirl had to deny that GPS disproves instant vision, and since GR is very well proven and documented with evidence, she had to disclaim any connection between GPS and GR. And that is where Peacegirl is stuck, she can't abandon her claim, even though it has been thoroughly disproved, and is bound to continue to try to support it, even though there is no support. Peacegirl is truly caught between a rock and a hard place, there is a great deal of evidence against her ideas, and no evidence for them, but she continues to flounder with her mistaken beliefs.

[The Lone Ranger]

Classic peacegirl: To "prove" that GPS doesn't require Relativity, she quotes two sources -- both of which explain that GPS does require Relativity.

That's almost as funny as the times when she argues against herself.

[Vivisectus]

And once again, the authentic text is vindicated while PeaceGirls version is left by the wayside:

Scientists unveil new form of matter: time crystals | Berkeley News

Not only is time a dimension, we can now create materials that do not just repeat themselves in 3 dimensions, but in 4. Einstein was correct, and Peacegirls garbled version cannot be correct, or there is no way this would work.

[peacegirl]

http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk/discu...ity5.htm#libor