A revolution in thought

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Let us not forget the full context, Flo - the Author stated that "Einstein was right" in the same manner and to the same extent that the Author himself was correct.



Thus, to reject and/or Corrupt the Author's unambiguous statement that "Einstein was right" is not only to reject Einstein's theories - it is also to reject the very basis of the Authentic Text's claim to be correct!

Peacegirl, dear, do you now see how the proof is in the pudding?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

Peacegirl, dear, do you now see how the proof is in the pudding?

No dear. Einstein was right about many things; so was Lessans. GPS systems don't require general relativity.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

No dear. Einstein was right about many things; so was Lessans. GPS systems don't require general relativity.

That is nice, dear. Since you found someone on Google who says GPS systems don't require general relativity, and since Google also says that ChuckF is the True Steward of the Authentic Text, you now agree that he is the True Steward of the Authentic Text. I am glad that we have cleared that up and we can move on now, to let ChuckF explain the Authentic Text to you. It still puzzles us why you hate and resent your father so much that you mutilated his writings, but you have that right of way.

[peacegirl]

www. freerepublic.com /focus/chat/1025790/posts

"In the 1990's, he [Van Flandern] worked as a special consultant to the Global Positioning System (GPS), a set of satellites whose atomic clocks allow ground observers to determine their position to within about a foot. Van Flandern reports that an intriguing controversy arose before GPS was even launched. Special Relativity gave Einsteinians reason to doubt whether it would work at all. In fact, it works fine."

"At high altitude, where the GPS clocks orbit the Earth, it is known that the clocks run roughly 46,000 nanoseconds (one-billionth of a second) a day faster than at ground level, because the gravitational field is thinner 20,000 kilometers above the Earth. The orbiting clocks also pass through that field at a rate of three kilometers per second -- their orbital speed. For that reason, they tick 7,000 nanoseconds a day slower than stationary clocks. To offset these two effects, the GPS engineers reset the clock rates, slowing them down before launch by 39,000 nanoseconds a day. They then proceed to tick in orbit at the same rate as ground clocks, and the system "works." Ground observers can indeed pin-point their position to a high degree of precision."

"in Einstein's theory the relevant speed is always speed relative to the observer, it was expected that continuously varying relativistic corrections would have to be made to clock rates. This in turn would have introduced an unworkable complexity into the GPS. But these corrections were not made. Yet "the system manages to work, even though they use no relativistic corrections after launch," Van Flandern said."
GPS, Relativity, and pop-Science Mythology

"The presence of Special and General Relativity effects has no bearing on the accuracy of GPS operation. In summary, it wouldn’t matter whether clocks aboard GPS satellites ran faster or slower than Earth’s clocks or even changed their speed each day. Just so long as the satellites’ clocks remained synchronised with each other and the time-difference relative Earth’s clocks didn’t become too large, GPS receivers would continue to calculate their correct position."

Why does GPS depend on relativity? - Physics Stack Exchange

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

www. freerepublic.com /focus/chat/1025790/posts

"In the 1990's, he [Van Flandern] worked as a special consultant to the Global Positioning System (GPS), a set of satellites whose atomic clocks allow ground observers to determine their position to within about a foot. Van Flandern reports that an intriguing controversy arose before GPS was even launched. Special Relativity gave Einsteinians reason to doubt whether it would work at all. In fact, it works fine."

"At high altitude, where the GPS clocks orbit the Earth, it is known that the clocks run roughly 46,000 nanoseconds (one-billionth of a second) a day faster than at ground level, because the gravitational field is thinner 20,000 kilometers above the Earth. The orbiting clocks also pass through that field at a rate of three kilometers per second -- their orbital speed. For that reason, they tick 7,000 nanoseconds a day slower than stationary clocks. To offset these two effects, the GPS engineers reset the clock rates, slowing them down before launch by 39,000 nanoseconds a day. They then proceed to tick in orbit at the same rate as ground clocks, and the system "works." Ground observers can indeed pin-point their position to a high degree of precision."

"in Einstein's theory the relevant speed is always speed relative to the observer, it was expected that continuously varying relativistic corrections would have to be made to clock rates. This in turn would have introduced an unworkable complexity into the GPS. But these corrections were not made. Yet "the system manages to work, even though they use no relativistic corrections after launch," Van Flandern said."
GPS, Relativity, and pop-Science Mythology

"The presence of Special and General Relativity effects has no bearing on the accuracy of GPS operation. In summary, it wouldn’t matter whether clocks aboard GPS satellites ran faster or slower than Earth’s clocks or even changed their speed each day. Just so long as the satellites’ clocks remained synchronised with each other and the time-difference relative Earth’s clocks didn’t become too large, GPS receivers would continue to calculate their correct position."

Why does GPS depend on relativity? - Physics Stack Exchange

ChuckF is the True Steward of the Authentic Text

In any event, the Authentic Text confirms that Einstein was right.

peacegirl, I understand that you reject the Authentic Text and hawk your $41.00 Corrupted Text online. You have that right of way. But we shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

ChuckF is the True Steward of the Authentic Text

In any event, the Authentic Text confirms that Einstein was right.

peacegirl, I understand that you reject the Authentic Text and hawk your $41.00 Corrupted Text online. You have that right of way. But we shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime.

#ChuckIsNoTrueSteward

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

#ChuckIsNoTrueSteward

peacegirl, I understand that this kind of blameful impotent protest take you in the direction of greater satisfaction, and therefore I do not blame you for it! Indeed, I expect it. It is part and parcel of your Corruption. This is as much a part of my nature as is the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8.

peacegirl, you will find that just as your mere rejection of the Authentic Text for your Corrupted Text that you hawk online does not diminish the Authentic Text, neither does your blame diminish my undeniable True Stewardship of the Authentic Text, for my True Stewardship of the Authentic Text is demonstrated in a manner that brooks no opposition.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl, I understand that this kind of blameful impotent protest take you in the direction of greater satisfaction, and therefore I do not blame you for it! Indeed, I expect it. It is part and parcel of your Corruption. This is as much a part of my nature as is the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8.

peacegirl, you will find that just as your mere rejection of the Authentic Text for your Corrupted Text that you hawk online does not diminish the Authentic Text, neither does your blame diminish my undeniable True Stewardship of the Authentic Text, for my True Stewardship of the Authentic Text is demonstrated in a manner that brooks no opposition.

#ChuckIsAFraud

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

#ChuckIsAFraud

Such a hateful, blameful rejection of the Authentic Text.

I guess 30 pieces of silver is worth about $41.00 nowadays.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Such a hateful, blameful rejection of the Authentic Text.

I guess 30 pieces of silver is worth about $41.00 nowadays.

#ChuckIsNoTrueSteward

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

#ChuckIsNoTrueSteward

That is incorrect as a simple matter of fact.

peacegirl, why do you resent Seymour Lessans? Why are you doing violence to his writings when he isn't even here to defend himself?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

That is incorrect as a simple matter of fact.

peacegirl, why do you resent Seymour Lessans? Why are you doing violence to his writings when he isn't even here to defend himself?

#MaturinIsNoDefenderOfLessans

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

#MaturinIsNoDefenderOfLessans

Believe me, peacegirl, I'm as surprised as you are to find myself defending Lessans. You see, it turns out that all those years I thought I was attacking and making fun of your father, I wasn't really doing that at all. I was going exclusively off the Corrupted Text, which until July 2016 is all we had. I now know that the Corrupted Text is the product of your fraud and attempted money grubbing, and that the Corrupted Text bears little to no resemblance to what Seymour Lessans actually wrote.

Thanks to ChuckF, I now know that you've gang-raped the Authentic Text beyond any and all recognition.

Now that I know about the Authentic Text and am in the process of discovering its many wonders, I am compelled of my own free will, so to speak, to protect it against all enemies foreign and domestic. As I see it, the principal enemies of the Authentic Text at this point are your fraudulent, whorish, money-grubbing depredations.

Clearly, I am not as far along in my study of the Authentic Text as Chuck. As a result, I regrettably find myself using the verbiage of blame (fraudulent, gang-rape, money grubbing, whorish, etc.) to describe your actions. Hopefully, as more of the Authentic Text comes to light and we are brought e'er closer to the Golden Age, my desire to blame you for your egregious misconduct and all the first blows you struck against the Authentic Text will fall by the wayside in due course.

Likewise, when you internalize the mathematical, scientific and undeniable precepts of the Authentic Text - which ChuckF presents in a manner that brooks no opposition - you will be compelled of your own free will to leave your thieving, cheating, lying, gang-raping ways behind and join me as a citizen of the New World.

I will be your Citizen Doctor, dispensing no advice and taking no fee.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Believe me, peacegirl, I'm as surprised as you are to find myself defending Lessans. You see, it turns out that all those years I thought I was attacking and making fun of your father, I wasn't really doing that at all. I was going exclusively off the Corrupted Text, which until July 2016 is all we had. I now know that the Corrupted Text is the product of your fraud and attempted money grubbing, and that the Corrupted Text bears little to no resemblance to what Seymour Lessans actually wrote.

Thanks to ChuckF, I now know that you've gang-raped the Authentic Text beyond any and all recognition.

Now that I know about the Authentic Text and am in the process of discovering its many wonders, I am compelled of my own free will, so to speak, to protect it against all enemies foreign and domestic. As I see it, the principal enemies of the Authentic Text at this point are your fraudulent, whorish, money-grubbing depredations.

Clearly, I am not as far along in my study of the Authentic Text as Chuck. As a result, I regrettably find myself using the verbiage of blame (fraudulent, gang-rape, money grubbing, whorish, etc.) to describe your actions. Hopefully, as more of the Authentic Text comes to light and we are brought e'er closer to the Golden Age, my desire to blame you for your egregious misconduct and all the first blows you struck against the Authentic Text will fall by the wayside in due course.

Likewise, when you internalize the mathematical, scientific and undeniable precepts of the Authentic Text - which ChuckF presents in a manner that brooks no opposition - you will be compelled of your own free will to leave your thieving, cheating, lying, gang-raping ways behind and join me as a citizen of the New World.

I will be your Citizen Doctor, dispensing no advice and taking no fee.

If it's just you and Chuck that's left, I will gladly say my adieu's.

[Stephen Maturin]

See you soon!

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will gladly say my adieu's.

Oh, peacegirl, always lying. See you again soon!

[Florence Jellem]

Buh-buh, peacegirl! Farethewell! Non-religious-godspeed! Au revoir! Прощай! 再见!

See you soon!

[ChuckF]

Now that peacegirl has left this thread forever again, no longer to infect it like a virus, I am compelled of my own free will as the True Steward of the Authentic Text to correct a particular Corruption and restore orthodoxy on the important mathematical subject of marital desires. To wit, how, when one is desirous of a sexual encounter, to resolve the problem of arousing an uninterested partner to desire sexual relations, without running afoul of the prohibition on favors and blame.

Having already established in a manner that brooks no opposition (pursuant to the mathematical and undeniable explication of the Boohog Corollary) (1) that a sexual relation is marriage and marriage is a sexual relation - there is no difference between the two; and (2) that married couples (who have fallen in love with each others' sexual organs) " constantly have to keep themselves [ . . . ] ready for love" (internal quotation marks omitted); and that (3) a perfectly balanced equation of sexual desire must prevail at all time, we must turn to the important question of how to maintain this balanced equation in circumstances other than a woman's pregnancy (which she will, of course, be compelled to abort pursant to the Boohog corollary.)

The Authentic Text provides important guidance that the Corrupted Text has suppressed. It is established that married individuals (who have fallen in love with one another's sexual organs) may not verbalize this desire (as this is a judgment of what is right of the other and thereby creates an obligation) or physically touch each other (as this only expresses desire). However, except for these limitations, the married couple's options are plenary, and the Authentic Text provides explicitly for the "use of what aphrodisiacs you like."



Since it makes no sense for one who is already desirous of a sexual relation to use any aphrodisiac, this Authentic Text necessarily, mathematically, and undeniably provides for the administration of "whatever aphrodisiacs you like" by the individual desiring a sexual relation to the individual not yet desiring such relation.

Simply offering an aphrodisiac is of course not an option, because this would simply be expressing the same desire that physical contact would do. It would be a judgement of what is right for the other and create an obligation. It is therefore necessary that the aphrodisiac be administered surreptitiously, and without physical contact, for example through dissolving in the non-desiring partner's food or drink.

In applying this principle, we must also recall that when a partner accepts an invitation for a date, what is actually being communicated is consent to a sexual relation:



It therefore follows, mathematically and undeniably, that when a boy asks a girl for a date (actually saying "I am going to do everything in my power to make love to you if you go out with me") and a girl accepts (actually saying "I know what you want, and you can have it"), a boy may administer to the girl "whatever aphrodisiacs [he] like[s]" to arouse her desire, so long as he uses such chemical compounds secretly and without physical contact. Because to administer the chemical compound(s) directly to her would be an expression of desire and judgement of what is best for her, and create an obligation.

The Authentic Text therefore instructs us, in undeniable mathematical terms and in a manner that brooks no opposition, that the (necessarily) surreptitious use of chemical compounds by one party who is seeking a sexual relation, in order to include a sexual relation with another party who is not seeking a sexual relation, is therefore appropriate and without blame.

[Florence Jellem]

The Parable of the Breasts, the Boohog Corollary, and now this – the Surreptitious Aphrodisiacs Theorem. All these riches were withheld from us for years by peacegirl, because she has been hawking her Corrupted Text for lucre.

[Stephen Maturin]

Imagine how wonderful things will be when distasteful, blame-laden terms like "date rape drug" fall by the wayside in due course!

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Now that peacegirl has left this thread forever again, no longer to infect it like a virus.

Don't be so sure, Peacegirl is like a bad penny, always showing up at the wrong time.

BTW, I appreciate your posting segments of the authentic text for everyone to read.

[Vivisectus]

Me and Mrs Sectus ran into this problem too, when we lived our lives according to Lessantonian principles. Simply inviting the other for some nookie is unacceptable: it is advance blaming the other person for perhaps not wanting to engage. We had tried translucent robes and sexy jackets, but then it struck us that there was very little difference between putting on your please fuck me hat and just asking if the other person is up for some rumpy-pumpy.

Not yet being aware of the Roofie Principle, in the end Mrs Sectus simply pretended to be looking for spare change under the rug, while I pretended I was distractedly using an invisible hula-hoop.

But the problems ran much deeper than that: just changing the channel on the TV became a major moral dilemma. What if the other person does in fact not want to watch something else? Just asking them if they do involved advance blaming them for not wanting to, and since they would never want to hurt me in any way they might just go along with it, even though they don't want to. Truly, a committed Lessanite navigates a minefield of potential blame at all times!

Then again, when someone just changes the channel without any sort of consultation, then we know they were compelled by their own free will to follow the path of maximum satisfaction, knowing no-one would ever blame them.

To this day, I am still not quite sure how Anakin skywalker and John Oliver fit into the plot if inception.

[ChuckF]

Viv and Mrs. Sectus, I am truely sorry for your lots. I hope that the restoration of the Authentic Text will assist in your lovemaking moving forward, and that you can avoid invisible hula hoops and hiding small change under various rugs and furniture. Spend that money on drugging one another instead.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

All these riches were withheld from us for years by peacegirl, because she has been hawking her Corrupted Text for lucre.

Disgraceful, isn't it?

Well, at least she's now left forever. That's a good thing. Every time she posts, it's as though Adolf is getting murdered all over again.

#ripAdolf

[The Lone Ranger]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

www. freerepublic.com /focus/chat/1025790/posts

"In the 1990's, he [Van Flandern] worked as a special consultant to the Global Positioning System (GPS), a set of satellites whose atomic clocks allow ground observers to determine their position to within about a foot. Van Flandern reports that an intriguing controversy arose before GPS was even launched. Special Relativity gave Einsteinians reason to doubt whether it would work at all. In fact, it works fine."

"At high altitude, where the GPS clocks orbit the Earth, it is known that the clocks run roughly 46,000 nanoseconds (one-billionth of a second) a day faster than at ground level, because the gravitational field is thinner 20,000 kilometers above the Earth. The orbiting clocks also pass through that field at a rate of three kilometers per second -- their orbital speed. For that reason, they tick 7,000 nanoseconds a day slower than stationary clocks. To offset these two effects, the GPS engineers reset the clock rates, slowing them down before launch by 39,000 nanoseconds a day. They then proceed to tick in orbit at the same rate as ground clocks, and the system "works." Ground observers can indeed pin-point their position to a high degree of precision."

"in Einstein's theory the relevant speed is always speed relative to the observer, it was expected that continuously varying relativistic corrections would have to be made to clock rates. This in turn would have introduced an unworkable complexity into the GPS. But these corrections were not made. Yet "the system manages to work, even though they use no relativistic corrections after launch," Van Flandern said."
GPS, Relativity, and pop-Science Mythology

"The presence of Special and General Relativity effects has no bearing on the accuracy of GPS operation. In summary, it wouldn’t matter whether clocks aboard GPS satellites ran faster or slower than Earth’s clocks or even changed their speed each day. Just so long as the satellites’ clocks remained synchronised with each other and the time-difference relative Earth’s clocks didn’t become too large, GPS receivers would continue to calculate their correct position."

Why does GPS depend on relativity? - Physics Stack Exchange

Do you not read your own stuff?

As the very article you quote points out, there is no need to correct for relativity after launching the satellites, because they corrected the satellites' onboard clocks for relativity before launching the satellites.