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07-15-2010, 09:31 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
So, I'm not going to read the article, because Pee said it was dumb, but is "creativity correlates with creativity" really some kind of astonishing revelation?
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07-15-2010, 09:35 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
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Originally Posted by Adamus Prime
So, I'm not going to read the article, because Pee said it was dumb, but is "creativity correlates with creativity" really some kind of astonishing revelation?
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I think it was saying that early creativity correlates with accomplishment (yes subjective but whatever) more than IQ does
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07-15-2010, 09:43 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
It specifically said "creative accomplishment", though. I can't tell (yes, I went back and read it ) whether that is supposed to exclude other sorts of accomplishment or not. If so, it seems weird that it would be seen as surprising that creativity was a better predictor of creative accomplishment than intelligence.
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07-17-2010, 03:34 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Weird coinkydink, Charlie Rose had a panel on discussing that creativity crisis article. Worth a watch, especially for Bruce Alberts..the bit starting at about 8:30 is most pertinent to our recent discussions on educational methods.
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07-17-2010, 08:54 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I was listening to an interesting episode on radiolab about numbers. What occurs to me is that there are some very useful ways of thinking that do not come naturally to us. Yet if you do manage to master it, it opens up a whole new world of creative possibilities. Yet there are people that are just not comfortable with numbers as we use them in the modern world.
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07-20-2010, 09:11 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Building Foundations of Scientific Understanding finally arrived and holy shit I it already.
It was written for kids ages 5-7, but seems to me it could be adapted all the way through middle school, as it's that thorough. It is more of a way of thinking about science, and building inquiry into everyday lives, than a fact memorization type thing.
The introduction contains a section they call "Baloney Detection" and it discusses some commonly encountered fallacious reasoning like unsupported assertions, correlation vs. causation, and whatever the formal term is for accepting the answer at hand because you can't think of a better one. I know, for a fact, they do not teach these in many public schools. My nephew informed me they didn't even begin science instruction until 3rd grade.
The book is like 20.00 and would make a great supplement for anyone, regardless of where their kids are being edumucated.
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07-27-2010, 09:20 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I have been kinda envious of the creative names people have for their homeschools, especially Lagniappe Academy, which I think is brilliant on many levels. Also, I wanna make homeschoolburns harder by calling myself a small private school. So with Chuck's help, I decided to name our homeschool Bon Secour Academy.
We live in the town of Bon Secour, on the Bon Secour River, which flows into Bon Secour Bay. So, my first reason for choosing it is location.
On an antique map I have seen, the area was originally called Bon Secours, the literal translation of which is "good help" or "good aid". In this case it was meant to indicate a safe harbor for sailors looking for shelter in a storm (the final s was dropped sometime in the 1800's for some reason, most likely non French speaking mapmakers simply misspelled it and it stuck). All of the area literature uses the loose translation "safe harbor".
I think both the translations work well for us
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07-28-2010, 01:21 AM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I was wondering what happened to the S. I was born at Bon Secours Hospital in Grosse Pointe. They keep the French spellings in and around Detroit, but mispronounce them dreadfully.
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07-28-2010, 03:48 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I am not sure which one of Mrs. Shea's boring educational thrads this goes in, so feel free to ban me permanently if this is deemed the wrong one:
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07-28-2010, 04:12 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
If you're so bored quit reading pea!
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08-05-2010, 07:48 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
BFSU has made a "Baloney Detection" poster for the kids.
1. Forceful declarations do not substantiate facts or truth
2. Every effect has a rational cause
3. Two events occurring in sequence do not imply a causal relationship
4. The universe is governed by natural laws and principles
5. The inability to think of an alternative does not make the reason at hand right, nor does proving one idea wrong make another idea right
6. All the data and/or observations must be considered
7. Beware of generalizing from the Particular to the universal
8. Quantities must add up
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08-06-2010, 12:05 AM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Is that the exact wording?
Or is it written in more simple language?
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08-06-2010, 01:49 AM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
BFSU has made a "Baloney Detection" poster for the kids.
1. Forceful declarations do not substantiate facts or truth
2. Every effect has a rational cause
3. Two events occurring in sequence do not imply a causal relationship
4. The universe is governed by natural laws and principles
5. The inability to think of an alternative does not make the reason at hand right, nor does proving one idea wrong make another idea right
6. All the data and/or observations must be considered
7. Beware of generalizing from the Particular to the universal
8. Quantities must add up
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They missed the most important one.
0. Be careful about fooling yourself, because you can do it easily.
The rest follows from that.
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08-06-2010, 02:19 AM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
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Originally Posted by erimir
Is that the exact wording?
Or is it written in more simple language?
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That's a copypasta. It's up to the teacher to explain or rephrase as needed.
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09-21-2010, 05:52 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I got a really cool dumpster dived mirror, and set it on the floor until I could get it hung. Kiddo saw it and was playing whatever mirror exploration games came to mind, and then he said "What if I fell through the mirror?" That led to us starting Alice Through the Looking Glass (luckily I have the collected works of Lewis Carrol at hand!) complete with reading the opening stanzas of Jabberwocky in the mirror, exploring our own "Looking Glass House", and explaining chess, which Kiddo now wants to learn.
This, apparently, is what unschoolers call a "rabbit hole adventure", from what I understand, which LOL at the Alice coincidence. I don't know...but it was a very cool evening and he never realized he was learning.
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09-21-2010, 06:02 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
I want to know more about the "Looking Glass House."
ETA: fucking freegans itt
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09-21-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Oh it wasn't that exciting, we just looked at the room through the mirror to spot the differences, and see how the reflection limits line of sight and 2d vs 3d kinda thing.
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09-21-2010, 06:12 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Hey, dumpster diving is a way to get cool shit for free. Frugality is not necessarily a political statement or whatever. The mirror came from my brothers house when he moved, and was in the charity pile. So it was more like reclaimed from the poors.
IOW, don't call me a freegan!
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09-21-2010, 06:48 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
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Oh it wasn't that exciting, we just looked at the room through the mirror to spot the differences, and see how the reflection limits line of sight and 2d vs 3d kinda thing.
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That's super interesting! Next time you go down a mirror-based rabbit hole, you should bust out the laser pointer. Or get some concave or convex mirrors, or a magnifying mirror.
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09-21-2010, 07:03 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Ooh, I hadn't thought of the laser pointer, although we have one sitting right next to the mirror (actually it was a laser sight off a spring gun, but same thing)
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09-22-2010, 07:50 AM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
Some one gave me a copy of an early phonics system for teaching reading. It's highly scripted, but sort of interesting. I might try it with my son.
"Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" by Siegfried Engelmann
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09-22-2010, 03:51 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
That one is really highly thought of Qing, constantly recommended on homeschool sites. It was on my short list. In fact it came down to that or the one I bought.
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09-22-2010, 04:21 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
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09-28-2010, 08:17 PM
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Re: Educating Kiddo
This is pretty boring looking, so I thought you would probably like it:
DocsTeach
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