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Of course taxes are too high, otherwise they would be creating jobs. Do you see jobs being created? No? Therefore, corporate taxes are too high. :capitalistpig:
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Skills gap hobbles US employers - FT.com

He is offering a salary of more than $80,000 with overtime, including health and pension benefits. Yet in spite of extensive advertising, he has had no qualified applicants. He is trying to train some of his unskilled staff but says none has the ability or drive to complete the training.
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That's a pretty specialized job, sheet metal set-up operator. Looks like employers want quite a bit of background for this job.

Here's another description:

The quote below is from your same article, though sourced sideways, because your link requires a subscription (albeit free, but w/ email spam built in).
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Some big manufacturers still train in-house, including Boeing, the aerospace manufacturer, which spends $80m a year on training its existing workforce. But not all do. “Technology moves fast and most companies don’t have the money or resources to pay for extensive retraining,” said Sir James Dyson, the British household appliances engineer.

Without in-house training programmes, companies have often been left looking for staff with specific skills. “A generation ago, employers would hire and train employees. Now, they demand trained workers,” says Peter Cappelli, a professor of management at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton business school.

“The skills gap is largely a figment of companies’ imagination,” says Mr Cappelli. “They cannot find workers to do the very specific tasks they want done. That is different from not being able to find capable workers.”
Do you ever read the articles you use as sources?
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Chunks, the company is willing to pay for 5 years of training. If you can't learn this job in 5 years then you don't deserve a salary of more than $80,000 with overtime, including health and pension benefits.
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Taking this example you have someone earning an $80,000 salary with overtime, including health and pension benefits at the age of 25 verus a 25 year old college graduate making $36,500 and $80,000 in debt.
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Which of them is the one in the yellow trunks?
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Chunks, the company is willing to pay for 5 years of training. If you can't learn this job in 5 years then you don't deserve a salary of more than $80,000 with overtime, including health and pension benefits.
Please quote the relevant section that discusses the 5 years of training in the article you linked. Does that person earn an income in the meantime?

Here's another article about Marlin Steel Wire Products from earlier this year.

Here's their website showing their robots in action- 99% of the video you do not see a person. I caught a glimpse of one glove in the first 30 seconds in a still shot. That was it. Video is fascinating though.
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OMG TAXES!
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Chief executive pay has roared back after two years of stagnation and decline. America's top bosses enjoyed pay hikes of between 27 and 40% last year, according to the largest survey of US CEO pay. The dramatic bounceback comes as the latest government figures show wages for the majority of Americans are failing to keep up with inflation.
Man, those companies must be hurting from all those taxes
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lol Chunks, you were just offered $80,000 and refused it, .....
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In Baltimore? LOL. That town is a shit-hole. Plus the people from there are assholes.

So that's a no, you won't quote the relevant section where Marlin Steel Wire offers to pay for 5 years of schooling?
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In Baltimore? LOL. That town is a shit-hole. Plus the people from there are assholes.
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That family is as American as white bread, what's not to like?

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Default Re: For all those people who think that cutting corporate taxes will increase revenue

Here's a good article on the Job Creator fiction. Demand creates jobs, not job creators. A business does not operate in a vacuum. A healthy middle class with disposable income creates jobs.

Finally, A Rich American Destroys The Fiction That Rich People Create The Jobs | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

The most important reason the theory that "rich people create the jobs" is absurd, argues Nick Hanauer, the founder of online advertising company aQuantive, which Microsoft bought for $6.4 billion, is that rich people do not create jobs, even if they found and build companies that eventually employ thousands of people.What creates the jobs, Hanauer astutely observes, is a healthy economic ecosystem surrounding the company, which starts with the company's customers.
The company's customers buy the company's products, which, in turn, creates the need for the employees to produce, sell, and service those products. If those customers go broke, the demand for the company's products will collapse. And the jobs will disappear, regardless of what the entrepreneur does.


This is what has happened. The wealth of the American middle class has been extracted, so producers turn to greener pastures overseas. It has jack smack to do with tax burden.
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Hey, remember way back when we were talking about Marlin Steel Wire, and how hard Mr. Greenblatt has it, as the CEO of a business who "can't find skilled workers?"

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Take one of the Times’s main anecdotes, Drew Greenblatt, who owns a small manufacturing firm in Baltimore called Marlin Steel Wire and who gets his picture in the Times. This was his third NYT hit in three months. Here are Mr. Greenblatt’s other press hits in June: The NBC Nightly News, PBS Newshour (twice), NPR’s Morning Edition, The Hamilton Spectator. So far this year he’s also been on CNN Newsroom and Fox Business (four times), and in the Financial Times, Reuters, and the Associated Press, plus a number of smaller publications. Two years ago, Greenblatt and his company were the focus of a flattering 2,300 word Atlantic profile and a couple of WaPo profiles in 2001 and 2007. This guy is like the Greg Packer of small manufacturers.

Last month, Tim Geithner popped in for a visit. All this ain’t bad for a company with revenues of $5 million. You’d think it was IBM.

Undisclosed in any of these stories is the fact that Greenblatt is an executive-committee member of the board of the National Association of Manufacturers, the powerful DC trade lobby. NAM not only pushes Congress for anti-labor policies (like banning picketing), it lobbies for government-funded workforce training programs (“to be led by the business community,” naturally).

Back in October NAM partnered with Deloitte to put out a report that used sketchy methodology to claim that 600,000 jobs are going unfilled because manufacturers “can’t find people with the right skills.”

Back in 2009, Greenblatt was upset that Congress and President Bush had upped the minimum wage from $5.85 an hour, telling Investors Business Daily that “The minimum wage (hike) is another anti-small-business and another anti-job plan.”

Last September, Greenblatt testified to Congress for NAM in favor of so-called free-trade agreements in Colombia, Panama, and South Korea. Earlier in the year he testified to Congress for NAM in favor of sharply reducing corporate taxes, increasing foreign labor visas, and drilling for oil and against new labor regulations. He (NAM) was against new labor rules, consumer-safety rules, and environmental regulations.

And he’s been to the White House several times. His prominent NAM post, not to mention all this political activity, means Greenblatt’s NAM connections should be disclosed to readers. Yet none of the many news outlets that have quoted him has done so.
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