Nationality Stereotypes

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Garsh, cool rebuttal. The poster I responded to lost the humorous spirit of the thread by going over the line to nastiness.

And "we"??

Ah, I see. Anti-French=funny. Anti-American=nasty.

Pathetic.

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by alphamale

I don't give a flying f__K how "the rest of the world" (= france and germany) views us, I DO travel overseas, and I do hope I leave that impression.

I'm sure you do, mate.

[Gurdur]

Oooooo, I just so love the inadequates who need bulletin boards to pretend to masculinity.

Originally Posted by alphamale

Yaaa - we overreacted to Pearl Harbor,

Oooo. you silly boy, the whole point was the USA was so isolationist then it waited --- despite all the signs a blind, retarded goldfish could read --- till Pearl Harbour to enter the war. Silly, huh?

having thousands of Russian ICBMs pointed at every square inch of our territory,

Don't be so ...... spoilt, son. The USA has tons of ICBM's pointing every which way, why do you want to hog all the fun ? Someone should have taught you how to share toys and sandpits.

and having two skyscrapers blown up in the middle of our most important city.

Two whole skycrapers? Goodness, how amazing. Really makes Israel, Dresden, Hiroshima, etc. pale in comparison, it really does.

I can see how it would seem like paranoia

There's hope for you yet, son.
Like the response to 9/11 was to invade Iraq going after all those mythical WMD's. That is not the sign of a sane mind, is it now?

euros basically having sat out the defense of the democratic west for the last 60 years.

Oh, you silly, silly boy. The USA entered WW1 only in 1917, only when absolutely forced to, only after all the main fighting had long since been done. Take a look at how many of the French --- both in absolute terms and in per capita terms --- died in WW1 as compared to the USA.
And then we come back to WW2. Oooooo, and the late late entry of the USA. Seems not only cowardly but stupid on the USA's side, no?

??????

Oh dear, you better go and read up on the American War Of Independence. The Brits were kicking American ass all over the place till the French sent in a massive fleet, massive supplies, troops, training of the American army, etc. etc. etc. The French saved the American ass.

The U.S. does not sell to countries that will destabilize a region

Wooohooo boy! I guess you haven't kept up with any news for the last fifty years. The USA sold arms and gave military intelligence to Hussein, remember? Or various dictators in South America? How about dictators in Somalia? Just for starters.

I don't give a flying f__K how "the rest of the world" (= france and germany) views us, I DO travel overseas, and I do hope I leave that impression.

oh come on, son, don't you know that both Germany and France have large trade surpluses with the USA? They make tons of money out of American economic ineptitude. So, you know, boy, they probably simply regard you as yet another dumb clown to make money out of. Assuming, that is, you do travel overseas, which is doubtful, considering your probable age.

And of course, boy, you don't care what others think of you, that's why you feel forced to self-advertise with a username like "alphamale". You know, like over-compensation and stuff as being a wannabe parroting American supremacism on bulletin boards in a vain effort to mimic the effects of Viagra for yourself on the cheap. But hey. Do go on, I'm sure we're all amused.

[alphamale]

I'm sure we're all amused.

I'll leave it to someone else to repair your historical hallucinations!

By the way, the use of "we" is a sure sign of a chatroom wuss.

[Gurdur]

Originally Posted by alphamale

I'll leave it to someone else to repair your historical hallucinations!

Translation: Alphamale is even younger than I thought he was, and hasn't even done the requisite history classes in school yet, but does knows when he's beaten and is good at running away. Tsk!

By the way, the use of "we" is a sure sign of a chatroom wuss.

Confusing a bulletin board with a chatroom is the sure sign of an internet newbie or a complete idiot. Which one are you, alphamale?
Just a small hint for you: this is not a "chatroom", it's a bulletin board.

Now, boy, as soon as you finish school, I expect you to immediately volunteer for the army and Iraq, just to prove to us your balls are at least 0.1% the size of your mouth.

[Trojan]

Originally Posted by Stormlight

As this whole thread is about stereotypes, I'm sure we can do without your neo-con bullshit explanations and justifications.

Yeah, we can do without the tiresome neocon bullshit. Alpha may be in the wrong part of town.

[Trojan]

I've noticed Laotians are hard, conscientious workers, clannish and they speak at a deafening shout. Anyone met one that wasn't described above?? I spend a small fortune on Tylenol now that I work next to a Laotian man. God forbid you get one laughing

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by Gurdur

Translation: Alphamale is even younger than I thought he was, and hasn't even done the requisite history classes in school yet, but does knows when he's beaten and is good at running away. Tsk!

Stomping on the likes of you is like throwing midgets at the bar - fun for a while, but then it gets old.

Confusing a bulletin board with a chatroom is the sure sign of an internet newbie or a complete idiot. Which one are you, alphamale?
Just a small hint for you: this is not a "chatroom", it's a bulletin board.

HELP!! HELLLLP!!!! CALL THE WORD POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, boy, as soon as you finish school, I expect you to immediately volunteer for the army and Iraq, just to prove to us your balls are at least 0.1% the size of your mouth.

Why don't you too? They take gays now, ya know!

[alphamale]

Yeah, we can do without the tiresome neocon bullshit. Alpha may be in the wrong part of town.

Neocon? That's paleocon! What is this - a lefty slum?

[Trojan]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Neocon? That's paleocon! What is this - a lefty slum?

Yeah. Take 3rd Street Avenue back to the bridge, go thru the lights and turn left. That's the way back to Mayberry.

[alphamale]

Why don't you hop on Air France and go where you'll be VERY appreciated? They might even give you an award like Michael Moron (but be cool - he didn't know whether to eat it or shove it up his ass.)

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Why don't you hop on Air France and go where you'll be VERY appreciated? They might even give you an award like Michael Moron (but be cool - he didn't know whether to eat it or shove it up his ass.)

Awesome ... The good, old "This is America! Shut up or get out!" routine.

[Gurdur]

Originally Posted by Stormlight

Awesome ... The good, old "This is America! Shut up or get out!" routine.

It's even better than that. We've now established alphamale is a chicken who won't put his money where his mouth is and volunteer for the armed forces, and we've established he is totally clueless when it comes to history, even history of the USA.

And the poor little lost boy is quivering in his shoes because this board is a "lefty slum".
He ain't gonna win any awards in his lifetime, is he? No positive ones, at least.

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by Gurdur

It's even better than that. We've now established alphamale is a chicken who won't put his money where his mouth is and volunteer for the armed forces, and we've established he is totally clueless when it comes to history, even history of the USA.

And the poor little lost boy is quivering in his shoes because this board is a "lefty slum".
He ain't gonna win any awards in his lifetime, is he? No positive ones, at least.

I think it's time for you to re-read the Ten Commandments of Patriotism, Gurdur.

[livius drusus]

Oh c'mon... Number 5 is way too easy.

[Dingfod]

Man, I am so busted.

[livius drusus]

American degenerate.

[cappuccino]

Originally Posted by alphamale

I don't give a flying f__K how "the rest of the world" (= france and germany) views us, I DO travel overseas, and I do hope I leave that impression.

Why don't you? Considering that EU has a formidable ecnomic power rivaling the USA which it has used more than once to force the US to fall into lines, not to mention a high international prestigue, I'd think you would do care about how the US conducts itself as a civilized country it's supposed to be.

Compared to the US's reprensible and embarassing behavior on the international scene combined with a deeply idiotic and embarassing presidency, yes I'm deeply ashamed about what the America has become. I can hardly say the US has geuninely been a force for good. It has done so much to transform the world into what it is today yes, but also to me, its government steadly working to undermine its foundations in a sad gasping attempt to preserve the past in face of a changing world.

Yes, the USA's actions ultimately reflects on itself and what goes comes around, we aren't isolated societies, we're globally linked and our actions have done untold damage to our image and reputation.

Which one do you want? A good reputation or a bad reputation and a one for meddling in countries, using its influence to throw its weight around, and committing horrifying actions in name of justice? I find it sad because America truely has many good and redeeming qualities but it's all buried under a mountain of vitrolic and bullying behavior.

You should do care about that the world thinks of you, and it's not just France and Germany as you'd have realized if you had done any appreciable amount of overseas traveling. Do you really want to be a citizen of a country that's almost universally scorned for damn good reasons?

If this country ends up imploding, I can only hope it won't be taking me and others I care about along with it.

[D. Scarlatti]

Traveling in the wake of the alphamales is enough reason to retain my Canadian passport.

[wei yau]

Originally Posted by Stormlight

Awesome ... The good, old "This is America! Shut up or get out!" routine.

While I agree that routine is tiresome, it's not any moreso than dismissing the "rightist" position because this forum is seemingly "leftist".

I'm not saying that the FF is "leftist", frankly I don't think there are enough of us participating in political discussions to know for sure. I'm not even saying that alphamale is "rightist" beyond the area of foreign policy and the US.

We've been through rounds of this before. Posters with dissenting opinions have stated that they felt ignored, repressed and/or shouted-down whenever they dissent. I've never fully agreed with that position, not at this forum. But, this particular thread is definitely evidence that it just might be a valid complaint.

I'll agree that alphamale hasn't exactly endeared himself to other participants in this thread. And there have been a good number of posts with solid responses. But, the whole "lefty slum" and "wrong part of town" thing reeks of exclusion.

We do enough navel-gazing about what it means to be "Freethought" and how we treat dissenting opinions. I don't think we'll ever arrive at an answer, I don't think we actually can...but I do think we can avoid blatant stuff like this thread.

[livius drusus]

I don't think the thread as a whole can be characterized as exclusionary, eldar, although several posts can be. My hope is that alphamale might decide to engage substantively on political discussions instead of just limiting himself to goading people and/or responding to goading. It's hard when your views are likely to be in the minority, I know, but we've all had to deal with that at some point or another, haven't we?

We shall see, I suppose.

[Sock Puppet]

I sort of agree about the "wrong part of town" comment, but c'mon -- WHAT dissenting opinion? This thread was about nationality stereotypes -- right or wrong, good or bad -- and this silly child takes offense just because his post about the French was lampooned a bit. I for one will treat alphamale's posts as "dissenting opinion" when they qualify for such a lofty description. He'll have to grow the fuck up first.

[wei yau]

Originally Posted by livius drusus

I don't think the thread as a whole can be characterized as exclusionary, eldar, although several posts can be.

You're right, I should have chosen my words more carefully. This entire thread is certainly not exclusionary.

It's hard when your views are likely to be in the minority, I know, but we've all had to deal with that at some point or another, haven't we?

Not me. As a weak-willed, lily-livered, spineless jellyfish, I've never been in the minority. I simply follow the leader.

[viscousmemories]

Are there any jellyfish with spines?

[alphamale]

Why don't you? Considering that EU has a formidable ecnomic power rivaling the USA which it has used more than once to force the US to fall into lines, not to mention a high international prestigue, I'd think you would do care about how the US conducts itself as a civilized country it's supposed to be.

I'll tell you one reason. When you grow up in this country, all you ever hear is bitching about the U.S. Bitch Bitch Bitch. It never ceases. When the U.S. does the wrong thing - bitching. When it does the right thing - bitching. After a while, and you realize the bitching is unvarying, you don't really hear it anymore - it becomes like background noise. Any prestige europe has from the rest of the world is because it's behaving properly in the eyes of the third world - obediently participating in its own decline, assisting in the general dismantling of western civilization.

Compared to the US's reprensible and embarassing behavior on the international scene combined with a deeply idiotic and embarassing presidency, yes I'm deeply ashamed about what the America has become. I can hardly say the US has geuninely been a force for good.

Outrageous. The U.S. has dead soldiers buried all over the world as a result of doing more (a LOT more) than any other country in defeating the two great evil world systems of the twentieth century. Now it is taking on a new one - islamofascism. Along the way it eliminated one of the most hellish dicatorships in the world - Saddam's regime, and as usual gotten nothing but criticism.

Which one do you want? A good reputation or a bad reputation and a one for meddling in countries, using its influence to throw its weight around, and committing horrifying actions in name of justice?

I've told you what I think "reputation" really denotes in the current world, and there is nothing wrong at all about the U.S. throwing its weight around against fascist dictators. Think what world you would be living in if the U.S. hadn't "thrown it's weight around" in WWII.