IPCC Fails Again

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Clutch Munny

And giving no evidence for "destroying science" is the same as proving it!

Use Google, it shows you the perpetration of the destruction of scientific evidence, I even gave it to you in the OP link.

[Deadlokd]

No joy at TR so you came back here eh Jerome?

[D. Scarlatti]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I even gave it to you in the OP link.

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Originally Posted by rigorist

Nice link to your own hard drive there, Donny.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Deadlokd

No joy at TR so you came back here eh Jerome?

No, like like that forum very much. Someone from here reminded me there of here and I saw that I was missed.

[Naru]

Originally Posted by D. Scarlatti

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Real climate scientists hack other people's emails to get scientific data, fool.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Use Google,

It's your claim, YOU use Google.

it shows you the perpetration of the destruction of scientific evidence, I even gave it to you in the OP link.

The OP link was a busted referral to your own hard drive, einstein.

[Jug Pilot]

Forests are growing faster, ecologists discover; Climate change appears to be driving accelerated growth

Speed is not a word typically associated with trees; they can take centuries to grow. However, a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences has found evidence that forests in the Eastern United States are growing faster than they have in the past 225 years. The study offers a rare look at how an ecosystem is responding to climate change.

For more than 20 years forest ecologist Geoffrey Parker has tracked the growth of 55 stands of mixed hardwood forest plots in Maryland. The plots range in size, and some are as large as 2 acres. Parker's research is based at the Smithsonian Environmental Research Center, 26 miles east of the nation's capital.

Parker's tree censuses have revealed that the forest is packing on weight at a much faster rate than expected. He and Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute postdoctoral fellow Sean McMahon discovered that, on average, the forest is growing an additional 2 tons per acre annually. That is the equivalent of a tree with a diameter of 2 feet sprouting up over a year.

Forests and their soils store the majority of the Earth's terrestrial carbon stock. Small changes in their growth rate can have significant ramifications in weather patterns, nutrient cycles, climate change and biodiversity. Exactly how these systems will be affected remains to be studied.

[Jerome]

How about that, CO2 encourages plant growth.

20 years ago we were all scared of deforestation and now our cars are making the forests grow!

[fragment]

All other things being equal (which they usually aren't in the real world), increased CO2 would be expected to lead to increased plant growth. That said, as reported, that study doesn't appear to show it:

Parker and McMahon wanted to know why it might be happening. "We made a list of reasons these forests could be growing faster and then ruled half of them out," said Parker. The ones that remained included increased temperature, a longer growing season and increased levels of atmospheric CO2.

Not being ruled out isn't the same thing as demonstrating an actual connection. I'd have to look at the actual methodology to see whether its possible to make more of a judgement on that.

Anyway, deforestation is still a big problem, mostly in the tropics, where we wouldn't expect increased temperatures and longer growing seasons to have any effect, and only much of a CO2 effect in dry forests.

[Sauron]

ROFLMAO

Too bad for little failtroll:

Researcher on Climate Is Cleared in Inquiry

By JOHN M. BRODER
WASHINGTON — An academic board of inquiry has largely cleared a noted Pennsylvania State University climatologist of scientific misconduct, but a second panel will convene to determine whether his behavior undermined public faith in the science of climate change, the university said Wednesday.

The scientist, Dr. Michael E. Mann, has been at the center of a dispute arising from the unauthorized release of more than 1,000 e-mail messages from the servers of the University of East Anglia in England, home to one of the world’s premier climate research units.
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Dr. Mann was named in 377 of the e-mail messages, including several that critics took to suggest that he had manipulated or destroyed data to strengthen his case that human activity was changing the global climate.

In the best-known message, he refers to a “trick” in a graph he produced a decade ago showing 1,000 years of essentially steady global surface temperatures followed by a sharp upward spike in the 20th century, seemingly corresponding to increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The so-called hockey stick graph has become an icon for environmentalists. It was prominently displayed in a 2001 United Nations report concluding that greenhouse gases from human activities had probably caused most of the warming measured since 1950.

In some of the e-mail messages, Dr. Mann refers to his assembly of data from a number of different sources, including ancient tree rings and earth core samples, as a “trick.” Critics pounced on the term and said it was evidence that Dr. Mann and other scientists had manipulated temperature data to support their conclusions. But the Pennsylvania State inquiry board said the term “trick” was used by scientists and mathematicians to refer to an insight that solves a problem. “The so-called trick was nothing more than a statistical method used to bring two or more different kinds of data sets together in a legitimate fashion by a technique that has been reviewed by a broad array of peers in the field,” the panel said.

The e-mail messages also contained suggestions that Dr. Mann had hidden or destroyed e-mail messages and other information relating to a United Nations climate change report to prevent other scientists from reviewing them. Dr. Mann produced the material in question, and the Pennsylvania State board cleared him of the charge.

There were also questions about whether Dr. Mann misused confidential data and engaged in a conspiracy with like-minded scientists to withhold information from competing scholars. The board found nothing to support the charge.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

How about that, CO2 encourages plant growth.

No, *greenhouses* encourage plant growth. That's why they're called "greenhouses".

And that's why CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Whether or not that is good for *other* forms of life is another question entirely.

But you already knew that.