A revolution in thought

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You're incorrect. He qualified what he wrote by saying that the prediction was based on the conviction that this knowledge would be thoroughly studied and understood by leading scientists. What does that mean? Trained people who know how to not jump to conclusions and certainly not take things out of context and belittle the author just because they don't like his claim.

Oh - leading scientists! People like the Chief of the Division of Infectious Disease at Childrens' Hospital of Philadelphia. peacegirl is famous for her respect for trained scientists who know how to not jump to conclusions or take things out of context.

peacegirl, how you reject the Authentic Text. This is why your Corruptions interest no one. This is why your $41.00 Corrupted Text remains unsold. You forget Durant's words quoted by the Messiah??



You lack the basic Wisdom of Socrates!

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Hmmm - what does the Authentic Text have to say about this, I wonder?

peacegirl's screed is pure fabrication and Corruption. The Authentic Text explicitly and thematically rejects mere academic credentials as a basis of authority (see, e.g. Charlie's PhD - "Remember, I am only a Ph.D."; Nageli was a leading scientist when Mendel found only rejection! "Our scientists" became enthralled over the discovery that light travels approximately 186,000 miles a second, taking for granted that 5 senses was equally scientific; they reasoned that since it takes longer for the sound from an airplane to reach us when it is 15,000 feet away than when 5,000, and since it takes longer for light to reach us the farther away it is when starting its journey, light and sound must function alike in other respects.) Indeed, this is the entire point of Chapter 9! The Authentic Text speaks for itself when allowed to do so as it did for Alice, and Harry, as he sucked her juicy cunt all night long.

The Authentic Text imposes no such wheedling and feeble qualifications.

All war must end between 1975 and 1980 - not all war might end if the right people read my book and then do this and then do that, blah blah blah. All. War. Must. End. Between 1975 and 1980.





peacegirl, this is why over 96% of people agree that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text.

[Stephen Maturin]

Another day, another example of peacegirl ravaging the Authentic Text for her own craven purposes. That's ... unsurprising.

I was saddened to read of Miss Flo's loss.

#ripAdolph

On the other hand, I am awash in anticipation over the prospect of seeing what wonders lie beyond the door marked "My Penis is Like a Phallic Symbol," one of many original Authentic Text statements that fell victim to peacegirl's depredations.

#OneWangToRuleThemAll

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Another day, another example of peacegirl ravaging the Authentic Text for her own craven purposes. That's ... unsurprising.

I was saddened to read of Miss Flo's loss.

#ripAdolph

Thank you, dear. Flo isn't quite over it yet.

On the other hand, I am awash in anticipation over the prospect of seeing what wonders lie beyond the door marked "My Penis is Like a Phallic Symbol," one of many original Authentic Text statements that fell victim to peacegirl's depredations.

#OneWangToRuleThemAll

<Cue Twilight Zone theme music.>There is a door marked “My Penis Is Like a Phallic Symbol.” You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of (efferent) sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and screens of undeniable substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the #TrueStewardship Zone.</music>

*Flo rattles keys, unlocks door. It creaks open.*

Boys, Flo has often pondered how future Lessansologists will likely be mystified by the messiah’s preoccupation with sex organs — particularly his insistence that in the Golden Age coming soon in 1975, boys and goils will fall in love with each other’s sex organs and hitch up for life. (I can assure you boys that Flo did not “fall in love” with those ghastly parts dangling from between the legs of her three ex-husbands.)

At first glance this idea seems retarded, and peacegirl has always maintained that it must be considered in a wider context. But it is she herself who purged the text of that very context! Sad!

It was when Flo realized this, that she had her “Ah-hah!” moment, leaping to her feet screeching, “Eureka! I have it!” Flo spilled her whiskey, and little Adolf — well, you already know what happened with Adolf. No use beating a dead horse, or even a dead Manchester terrier.

They key to understanding lies in the phrase that peacegirl ignorantly expurgated: “My penis is like a phallic symbol.”

My penis is like a phallic symbol.

Just let that phrase trip off your tongue. Savor it. Close your efferent eyes and — if you’re an I, G, or E-Homo — go ahead and even taste it (taste still being a sense organ).

Now the concept of a penis as a phallic symbol — a penis being a symbol of itself; an ur-penis — must be united (so to speak) with a juicy cunt. Not just a cunt, mind you — a juicy cunt; a precious, precious cunt.

Are we all on the same page, boys? Now, patiently, step by step — post by post — Flo will will conduct you on this safari into the boundless wilderness of the imagination, and when we return home, you will be in possession of a set of undeniable mathematical truths, relations that do not need your consent to be true, but merely your affirmation of understanding. These truths do not need your consent to be true, any more than two plus two needs your consent to be four, or ChuckF needs your consent to be the True Steward of the Authentic Text.

We shall find, though, that the Authentic Text — unlike the bowdlerized, mutilated Corrupted Text — can only be understood as a radically extended metaphor, in which surface statements are but a thin, brittle carapace concealing chthonic depths — depths wherein bubbles and stews the Germinal Substance of Myth and Meaning.

Won’t you join me on this journey, boys?

More later. Now it’s time for my whiskey.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Another day, another example of peacegirl ravaging the Authentic Text for her own craven purposes. That's ... unsurprising.

I was saddened to read of Miss Flo's loss.

#ripAdolph

On the other hand, I am awash in anticipation over the prospect of seeing what wonders lie beyond the door marked "My Penis is Like a Phallic Symbol," one of many original Authentic Text statements that fell victim to peacegirl's depredations.

#OneWangToRuleThemAll

Now that I have shown you where you were wrong in your summary, I hope in the reflective moments of your life you will desire to reread the book, not for my sake but for yours. You missed the entire two-sided equation and the reason there has to be a contract that allows the transition into the new world to get underway. You were wrong when you said his entire proposition will fail when a person is struck a first blow because you are making an assumption that under the changed conditions the desire to strike a first blow will continue unabated. You're incorrect.

[ChuckF]

You need to go to your corner, peacegirl, and don't come out until you read the Authentic Text, or you will go back to basic training. Why are you being booked for insubordination? You know why, peacegirl, but you don't like the Authentic Text. You know nothing about the Authentic Text, but you are a Corruptor, electing yourself to hack the Authentic Text to pieces and hawk your Corrupted Text online for lucre ($41.00!!!). Once again, that's like asking a chimpanzee to call the shots. I hope the people in this thread recognize that you and your Corruptions are the source from which bullshit Corruption emanates.

[Florence Jellem]

Peacegirl, dear, why the bullying tactics? Is it because the Authentic Text threatens your precious world view? But the proof is in the pudding and the truth always wins out. Do you know the real reason why world peace did not arrive in 1975, as God whispered into your father’s ear that it would? It’s because you have been hawking the Corrupted Text rather than the Authentic Text. You are also to blame for the death of my dear little Adolf. #ripAdolf If world peace had come in 1975, then Adolf would never have attacked the mailman because that would have been striking the first blow and an example of advance blaming.

[ChuckF]

We must give credit where credit is due. Despite her various protests, peacegirl apparently does not disagree that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text. Perhaps she suggested the poll as a means of expressing her contrition for her bullying attempts to dispute my #TrueStewardship.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Now that I have shown you where you were wrong in your summary,

peacegirl, please, for the sake of Seymour Lessans - hell, for your own sake as well - just shut up. Again, there is no "[my] summary." I provided a one-sentence summary of your father's two-sided equation. It was not "[my] summary" but rather a direct quote from your own Corrupted Text. You disagreed with that quote. You disagreed in 2013 when the original conversation occurred, and you disagreed again just this past Friday. Why should anyone listen to a word you say when you apparently don't even know the contents of your own Corrupted Text?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I hope in the reflective moments of your life you will desire to reread the book, not for my sake but for yours.

peacegirl, if by "the book" you mean the Corrupted Text that you peddle online for cash, then thanks for the offer but no, I will not be re-reading it. Thanks to ChuckF, the True Steward of Seymour Lessans' work, I now know of and have access to the Authentic Text written and published during the author's lifetime. Why on earth would I drive a 1985 Yugo GV with a busted transmission when I can drive a brand new Lamborghini Huracán?

Originally Posted by ChuckF

You need to go to your corner, peacegirl, and don't come out until you read the Authentic Text, or you will go back to basic training. Why are you being booked for insubordination? You know why, peacegirl, but you don't like the Authentic Text. You know nothing about the Authentic Text, but you are a Corruptor, electing yourself to hack the Authentic Text to pieces and hawk your Corrupted Text online for lucre ($41.00!!!). Once again, that's like asking a chimpanzee to call the shots. I hope the people in this thread recognize that you and your Corruptions are the source from which bullshit Corruption emanates.

Why does that look so familiar?

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

If world peace had come in 1975, then Adolf would never have attacked the mailman because that would have been striking the first blow and an example of advance blaming.

So, basically, peacegirl murdered a small dog.

[Florence Jellem]

peacegirl, why did you murder my dog?

[peacegirl]

[quote=Stephen Maturin;1282539]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Now that I have shown you where you were wrong in your summary,

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl, please, for the sake of Seymour Lessans - hell, for your own sake as well - just shut up. Again, there is no "[my] summary." I provided a one-sentence summary of your father's two-sided equation. It was not "[my] summary" but rather a direct quote from your own Corrupted Text. You disagreed with that quote. You disagreed in 2013 when the original conversation occurred, and you disagreed again just this past Friday. Why should anyone listen to a word you say when you apparently don't even know the contents of your own Corrupted Text?

You are being arcane. Please be more specific.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I hope in the reflective moments of your life you will desire to reread the book, not for my sake but for yours.

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl, if by "the book" you mean the Corrupted Text that you peddle online for cash, then thanks for the offer but no, I will not be re-reading it. Thanks to ChuckF, the True Steward of Seymour Lessans' work, I now know of and have access to the Authentic Text written and published during the author's lifetime. Why on earth would I drive a 1985 Yugo GV with a busted transmission when I can drive a brand new Lamborghini Huracán?

Why does that look so familiar?

So, basically, peacegirl murdered a small dog.

I don't care what book you read Maturin. I told you this would be for your benefit, not mine. There is nothing more I can say other than the fact that this group has tried with all they've got to ruin the message of this book by satirizing it and turning it into something it's not. The fact that you all have determined that Lessans was wrong and now you are free to be as callous and hurtful as you all are, is more of a reflection on you all, not him. My father used tongue and cheek in his earlier book but the principles remain the same even though his later books were written with a more serious tone. Believe me, if you had known him you would never have gone down this path.

[ChuckF]

peacegirl, how is your new private Facebook page going? How many $41.00 copies of your Corrupted Text have you sold? Is it exactly zero, since the same final copy is still for sale on Amazon.com?

peacegirl, you will be pleased to know that I have not been tempted to post on your private Facebook page, so you will not have to ban the True Steward of the Corrupted Text as you have promised to do. Indeed, I seem to find a great deal of company with the rest of the world, as the most recent post seems to date from March 2014.

[Florence Jellem]

I don’t suppose peacegirl deliberately murdered my little Adolf. But Adolf is dead because of her irresponsibility in hawking the corrupted text for lucre, thereby preventing the arrival of world peace in 1975. The death of my little Adolf is like that scene in the Sopranos when Christopher, all effed up on H, sits down on the family dog and crushes it.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl, how is your new private Facebook page going? How many $41.00 copies of your Corrupted Text have you sold? Is it exactly zero, since the same final copy is still for sale on Amazon.com?

peacegirl, you will be pleased to know that I have not been tempted to post on your private Facebook page, so you will not have to ban the True Steward of the Corrupted Text as you have promised to do. Indeed, I seem to find a great deal of company with the rest of the world, as the most recent post seems to date from March 2014.

I haven't pursued this avenue yet even though I set the page up in 2014. Unfortunately people are viewing the page but have not joined because it looks abandoned. Not for long though.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

I don’t suppose peacegirl deliberately murdered my little Adolf. But Adolf is dead because of her irresponsibility in hawking the corrupted text for lucre, thereby preventing the arrival of world peace in 1975. The death of my little Adolf is like that scene in the Sopranos when Christopher, all effed up on H, sits down on the family dog and crushes it.

You're as crazy as they come David.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I haven't pursued this avenue yet even though I set the page up in 2014. Unfortunately people are viewing the page but have not joined because it looks abandoned. Not for long though.

Hi peacegirl!

What stays your hand, peacegirl? You mentioned you were going to do this on one of your multiple recent declarations that you were leaving , mingled in with silly nonsense about putting me on ignore; yet you have obviously done none of those things. Why not, peacegirl? Why have you not done what you said you were going to do?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You're crazy as they come David.

peacegirl, do you agree with peacegirl that it is a form of bullying to dismiss people as loons?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Hi peacegirl!

What stays your hand, peacegirl? You mentioned you were going to do this on one of your multiple recent declarations that you were leaving , mingled in with silly nonsense about putting me on ignore; yet you have obviously done none of those things. Why not, peacegirl? Why have you not done what you said you were going to do?

I took you off of ignore because it's hard for me to not answer to the lies that you are circulating. I'm not staying long enough to put you back on ignore.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You're crazy as they come David.

Originally Posted by Chuck

peacegirl, do you agree with peacegirl that it is a form of bullying to dismiss people as loons?

Absolutely! David is the bully Chuck and I will fight back, an eye for an eye. I have a question for you Chuck: why are you mean spirited?

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You're as crazy as they come David.

Look at peacegirl savagely attacking an old lady after murdering her dog!

BULLY!

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm not staying long enough to put you back on ignore.

peacegirl, how long will you be staying this time? Five more years?

To put it another way, peacegirl, how much time will elapse between your declaration that you are leaving and your next post? Four hours? Five?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I have a question for you Chuck: why are you mean spirited?

peacegirl, I am compelled of my own free will to be the True Steward of the Authentic Text #TrueStewardship. What can #TrueStewardship be if it is not the defense of the Authentic Text against vile Corruptions hawked online for lucre ($41.00!!!), to restore the orthodoxy of the Authentic Text and the rejection of your Corrupted Text?

peacegirl, I have done as you suggested. You will find that 96% of people recognize me as the True Steward of the Authentic Text. I see that you do not disagree.

Indeed, peacegirl, why are you so mean-spirited as to reject and corrupt the Authentic Text and even the Author's recorded tapes for your own gain?

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

I don’t suppose peacegirl deliberately murdered my little Adolf. But Adolf is dead because of her irresponsibility in hawking the corrupted text for lucre, thereby preventing the arrival of world peace in 1975.

It can be argued both ways. In the civil law, at least, "intent" means that the actor: (1) desired to cause a consequence; or (2) believed that the consequence was substantially certain to occur. RESTATEMENT (SECOND) OF TORTS § 8A (1965). Item (2) is sometimes know in legal circles as the "any idiot would know" test for assessing intent.

It seems unlikely that peacegirl actively desired little Adolf's death. However, she deliberately altered the Authentic Text - a foolproof blueprint for world peace between 1975 and 1980 - and purposely promoted the corruptions as the author's own work. The flawless blueprint would have permeated all aspects of human endeavor, including dog training. On the facts herein, a credible argument can be made that any idiot would have known changing the Authentic Text, and hawking the resultant Corrupted Text in the service of Mammon, would have resulted in a dog dying exactly as poor Adolf did this past weekend. Based on that argument, a jury could reasonably conclude that peacegirl "intended" Adolf's death as the law defines that term.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I don't care what book you read Maturin.

peacegirl, whether you care or not, I will read the Authentic Text that Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime. I will not read the Corrupted Text. We know that the Corrupted Text is a "rafael," which the dictionary defines as "[a] text rewritten without the author's knowledge or consent that the rewriter falsely claims is what the author actually wrote."

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

It can be argued both ways. In the civil law, at least, "intent" means that the actor: (1) desired to cause a consequence; or (2) believed that the consequence was substantially certain to occur. RESTATEMENT (SECOND) OF TORTS § 8A (1965). Item (2) is sometimes know in legal circles as the "any idiot would know" test for assessing intent.

It seems unlikely that peacegirl actively desired little Adolf's death. However, she deliberately altered the Authentic Text - a foolproof blueprint for world peace between 1975 and 1980 - and purposely promoted the corruptions as the author's own work. The flawless blueprint would have permeated all aspects of human endeavor, including dog training. On the facts herein, a credible argument can be made that any idiot would have known changing the Authentic Text, and hawking the resultant Corrupted Text in the service of Mammon, would have resulted in a dog dying exactly as poor Adolf did this past weekend. Based on that argument, a jury could reasonably conclude that peacegirl "intended" Adolf's death as the law defines that term.

Agreed, counselor; one wonders, too, how a court of law may consider damages incurred in reliance upon the Corrupted Text, the same having been deceptively (and knowingly, with purpose and intent) introduced into commerce bearing the indicia of the Authentic Text such that a reasonable consumer - and indeed, a reasonable leading scientist - may be induced to believe, and to rely upon such belief to his or her detriment, that it was, in fact, the Authentic Text.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl, whether you care or not, I will read the Authentic Text that Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime. I will not read the Corrupted Text. We know that the Corrupted Text is a "rafael," which the dictionary defines as "[a] text rewritten without the author's knowledge or consent that the rewriter falsely claims is what the author actually wrote."

Eventually all of your lulz will lose steam and only the truth will remain. This thread will then be a bird's eye view into the ways that lies turn into memes and how anything that disrupts the status quo can be squashed. You never addressed your inaccuracy regarding the two-sided equation. Was that done unintentionally or do you have no answer which is probably what's going on. Just don't answer and move on.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Eventually all of your lulz will lose steam and only the truth will remain.

peacegirl, only the truth remains now. The painfully simple truth is that your Corrupted Text is but a pale, shadowy imitation of the Authentic Text, and accurately conveys virtually none of the author's insights. In addition, the truth is that ChuckF is the True Steward of Seymour Lessans' intellectual legacy.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You never addressed your inaccuracy regarding the two-sided equation.

peacegirl, you haven't the first clue what the two-sided equation is! Over three years ago I attempted to discuss the matter with you in good faith. I posted a direct quote from your own Corrupted Text purporting to summarized the two-sided equation, and you disagreed with the quote!

Now that the Authentic Text has come to light, I think I understand why the version of the two-sided equation set forth in the Corrupted Text appeared so laughably impotent. In all likelihood, you simply had no idea what your father was trying to say in that regard. Thus, when you rafaelized the Authentic Text, the author's true meaning was wholly obliterated.

peacegirl, if you can't even recognize statements from your own Corrupted Text regarding the two-sided equation - and you can't - what makes you think that you have anything worthwhile to say on the subject at all?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Just don't answer and move on.

peacegirl, I will not be bullied by the likes of you. I understand that ChuckF's discovery and sharing of the Authentic Text interferes with your personal ego trip, but that is irrelevant to The Truth. If you dislike the way things are proceeding since the discovery of the Authentic Text, then you move on. Feel free to set up your private Facebook echo chamber or whatever. I will stay right here and study the Authentic Text, and will do so without blame from you.

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Actually, the original book set a date on this, but it passed without anything happening. Like many belief systems where a prophetic prediction fails but where the adherents do not want to deal with the consequences of this, you simply added an excuse into the book, moving this date to an unspecified future moment.

e.g. Edgar C. Whisenant -88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

My father used tongue and cheek...

According the Authentic Text that is not the only place he used his tongue.