All Gov Funded Organizations Providing Pro-Choice Options Under Attack

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

WILL THEIR PERFIDY NEVER END

Fuck it, here, this is better than me: Breaking: Komen Reverses Decision on Planned Parenthood Funding, Is Still Likely Full of Shit

It is our hope and we believe it is time for everyone involved to pause, slow down and reflect on how grants can most effectively and directly be administered without controversies that hurt the cause of women. We urge everyone who has participated in this conversation across the country over the last few days to help us move past this issue. We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics - anyone's politics.

IOW "Can everyone please pretend we aren't assholes and shut up now?"

[Watser?]

I think they probably lost the people who left because of the PP thing forever and will now lose the wingnuts who claimed they were now 'finally able to give' them money...

[LadyShea]

Agreed, they stepped on their dicks then shot themselves in the foot on their dicks then stuck the foot in their mouths and shot it again.

[Watser?]

Yeah, it was quite a spectacle. This will probably go down in PR handbooks as an example of how not to handle a controversial decision.

[Miss Shelby]

I am canceling my order for my Susan G. Kommen travel mug.

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by Watser?

I think they probably lost the people who left because of the PP thing forever and will now lose the wingnuts who claimed they were now 'finally able to give' them money...

Originally Posted by Miss Shelby

I am canceling my order for my Susan G. Kommen travel mug.

I rest my case.

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by Miss Shelby

I am canceling my order for my Susan G. Kommen travel mug.

That'll show 'em! They will probably have to close all their offices and move the whole operation to Somalia.

[freemonkey]

LOL, there is a new video circulating calling Planned Parenthood liars because "THEY LIED! THEY DON'T EVEN GIVE MAMMOGRAMS!!" after calling a handful of PP offices and being told they don't do mammograms in those facilities.

Not that PP actually claims that they do the mammograms...

Liars for Komen

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[livius drusus]

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[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by freemonkey

LOL, there is a new video circulating calling Planned Parenthood liars because "THEY LIED! THEY DON'T EVEN GIVE MAMMOGRAMS!!" after calling a handful of PP offices and being told they don't do mammograms in those facilities.

Not that PP actually claims that they do the mammograms...

Haha, some white dude at the Weekly Standard wrote that exact very extremely stupid thing.

Originally Posted by Dumbass guy

Planned Parenthood president Cecille Richards recently said on CNN that if federal funding is cut off to her organization "millions of women are going to lose access, not to abortion services, to basic family planning, you know, mammograms...."

As Lila Rose's Live Action shows in this video, Planned Parenthood actually doesn't provide mammograms:

Of course, Richards never said that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms. She said that if funding is cut off, women will lose access to mammograms, which is, well, completely damn true.

Then, for some reason, he posts that Youtube video of a woman calling around to Planned Parenthood clinics and asking if they provide mammograms. And the video pretty much uniformly shows Planned Parenthood clinics saying no, and offering to provide referrals for mammograms. Like, the people who answer the phone will tell women where to go for mammograms. This is a very bad thing, apparently?

[Angakuk]

"millions of women are going to lose access, not to abortion services, to basic family planning, you know, mammograms...."

Mammograms are a part of basic family planning? I did not know that.

[LadyShea]

They do basic breast exams, they teach how to do self breast exams, they provide literature on the importance of self breast exams, they screen for high risk factors for breast cancer, and they will help find a low cost referral for mammograms if warranted.

Shit, most doctors don't suggest routine mammograms for younger women anyway unless they are high risk.

[Sock Puppet]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

Mammograms are a part of basic family planning? I did not know that.

In the sense that they're part of planning to avoid untimely deaths in the family, yes.

[Miss Shelby]

Originally Posted by Sock Puppet

In the sense that they're part of planning to avoid untimely deaths in the family, yes.

well in that case they should provide low cost referrals for prostate cancer, as well.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

Mammograms are a part of basic family planning? I did not know that.

Did someone claim that mammograms are a part of basic family planning?

[lisarea]

Originally Posted by Miss Shelby

well in that case they should provide low cost referrals for prostate cancer, as well.

Seriously, all the PP haters are hilarious.

You know they have a website, right?

Men's Sexual Health

[Miss Shelby]

Originally Posted by lisarea

Seriously, all the PP haters are hilarious.

You know they have a website, right?

Men's Sexual Health

I thought that site was legitimate. Git owta town.

[Ari]

Originally Posted by lisarea

I really hope the momentum keeps up regardless of whether they reverse the PP decision.

It has for me as I hadn't realized how corporate and conservative they have become. Whether they fund PP again or not I'm certainly never giving them money when it could just go directly to the source (and actually make it there).

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by Miss Shelby

well in that case they should provide low cost referrals for prostate cancer, as well.

Are you gonna provide funding for that?

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by lisarea

Seriously, all the PP haters are hilarious.

You know they have a website, right?

Men's Sexual Health

lol, I was about to poast that. PP will even provide medical care to gheys and transgender clients, it's like they just give people health care and education about sexual health without judging them or shaming them or anything!

From my local PP page:

Our health center supports and welcomes clients regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, or biological sex, including but not limited to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, and intersex clients.

[Miss Shelby]

Originally Posted by lisarea

Seriously, all the PP haters are hilarious.

You know they have a website, right?

Men's Sexual Health

now why do i gotta be a hater? just because I speak out of ignorance and won't buy a mug?

[lisarea]

That, and because you know you want it.

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by Watser?

Yeah, it was quite a spectacle. This will probably go down in PR handbooks as an example of how not to handle a controversial decision.

Srsly

Deanna Zandt, consultant and author of “Share This! How You Will Change the World With Social Networking,” told Salon Friday, “I’m going to start using that video in my workshops as an example of what not to do.”

How the Internet changed Komen's mind - Breast cancer - Salon.com

[LadyShea]

From the Salon article

Planned Parenthood is, by now, well versed in how to handle outside attacks and negative publicity. Along the way, the organization has become pretty smooth at it. From the moment that first message about Komen appeared, Planned Parenthood remained relentless in keeping momentum going on the story, posting links to news coverage, retweeting supportive messages, and repeatedly reminding people how to donate to the cause across all of its social media platforms.

Komen, in contrast, could hardly have seemed more spectacularly blundering in all of it. As one commenter posted, “the last thing as unpopular on Facebook as this Komen thing was Michael Jackson’s death.” Not only did the organization clearly not even consider sending out its own preemptive, damage-controlling message, it waited more than a full day before responding to the outcry at all. And when it did, oof.

Because while Komen was cautiously portioning out terse, defensive responses that smacked of “You should all be grateful for how much we do for you people,” Planned Parenthood and its supporters had been not just expressing their indignation but harnessing it, in ways that will both make you weep and make you laugh. Social media is all about connection. That’s why Planned Parenthood not only posted a letter from a supporter; it made it the organization’s newest petition. “When you go after Planned Parenthood and the people they serve,” it reads in part, “you go after ME.” Direct, personal and powerful.

Yep, feet on dicks in mouths being shot.

[LadyShea]

In my email from PP

Over the last three days, Planned Parenthood Federation of America's Breast Health Fund has received more than $3 million from thousands of people across the country. Every dollar we received for this fund will go directly to breast exams and diagnostic services, as well as breast health outreach and education so that more women can receive this critical care.

I didn't even know they ran it as a separate fund. Also, note, no mention of mammograms.