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05-30-2011, 07:53 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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... people will not move forward, so there's nowhere to go.
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And whose fault is that, pg? |
What do you mean by that? |
I mean, who do you think is to blame for the lack of progress you have made here?
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05-30-2011, 07:56 PM
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I said it, so I feel it, dick
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Re: A revolution in thought
Sure, but I am not proselytizing my ideas. I have no emotional investment in them, except my investment in personal growth and continuous learning and taking steps to understand our awesome and amazing world and universe.
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05-30-2011, 08:02 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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It's their way or the highway, therefore I choose the highway because their way is not 100% right.
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You don't understand science enough to make that statement. |
I know intuitively that David is wrong when he tells me that efferent vision means information is being transferred faster than the speed of light. That's insane, but when someone is transfixed on their beliefs to the degree David is, there's no getting through. I know the irony meter is exploding right now.
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05-30-2011, 08:02 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Sure, but I am not proselytizing my ideas. I have no emotional investment in them, except my investment in personal growth and continuous learning and taking steps to understand our awesome and amazing world and universe.
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That's great LadyShea. I really think you're awesome. 
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05-30-2011, 08:06 PM
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I said it, so I feel it, dick
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Re: A revolution in thought
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It's their way or the highway, therefore I choose the highway because their way is not 100% right.
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You don't understand science enough to make that statement. |
I know intuitively that David is wrong when he tells me that efferent vision means information is being transferred faster than the speed of light. That's insane, but when someone is transfixed on their beliefs to the degree David is, there's no getting through. I know the irony meter is exploding right now. |
I told you that as well, and I explained it in detail in a major post a few pages back. Efferent vision does mean that, if it is true. There is no way around that conclusion because they are lifted directly from the book where Lessans states someone on Rigel would see someone on Earth at the same exact moment in time through a telescope.
Your intuition is more likely to be telling you that you don't like davidm and so aren't going to believe anything he has to say.
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05-30-2011, 08:31 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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LadyShea, I have given a lot of time to this group, but I did it of my own free will.  |
Nope, wrong again, Lessans proved that we do not have 'Free Will' and since you, of your own 'Free Will' adopted his philosophy, you no longer have 'Free Will'. You have Freely given up your 'Free Will' and are compelled to be here out of arogance and pride, because we have contradicted Lessans and proved him wrong.
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05-30-2011, 08:32 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I don't mean to rant and rave and leave in a huff, but it is impossible to get anywhere with this issue, because people are so positive they are right. It's their way or the highway, therefore I choose the highway because their way is not 100% right.
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That is because "getting somewhere" to you means "getting people to believe in this book." It is not "analyzing and testing these ideas to see if they are correct" - which it should be. But you were never interested in an actual discussion and analysis. You even said at one stage that you didn't want to have a logical debate about it. But to be celebrated it must first stand up to scrutiny, which it doesn't.
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05-30-2011, 08:33 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
Hey does everyone know what time it is?
It's 200 page party time !
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05-30-2011, 08:37 PM
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05-30-2011, 09:07 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
Is there going to be a 5000th post party here in about 3 posts?
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05-30-2011, 09:08 PM
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05-30-2011, 09:20 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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If the sound from a plane even though we can’t see it on a clear day will tell us it is in the sky, why can’t we see the plane if an image is being reflected towards the eye on the waves of light? The answer is very simple. An image is not being reflected. We cannot see the plane simply because the distance reduced its size to where it was impossible to see it with the naked eye, but we could see it with a telescope. We can’t see bacteria either with the naked eye, but we can through a microscope. The actual reason we are able to see the moon is because there is enough light present and it is large enough to be seen. The explanation as to why the sun looks to be the size of the moon — although much larger — is because it is much much farther away, which is the reason it would look like a star to someone living on a planet the distance of Rigel. This proves conclusively that the distance between someone looking, and the object seen, has no relation to time because the images are not traveling toward the optic nerve on waves of light, therefore it takes no time to see the moon, the sun, and the distant stars.
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If I understand what Lessans is saying correctly, he did not believe that we see things because of reflected light at all. Light needs to be around for us to see, but it is not what we see--we see things themselves. Do I have that wrong? |
No, you're not wrong. But please understand that light is a necessary condition of sight. That was the very first thing he wanted people to understand, but people still believe when he said "we can see the moon instantly" that this meant we can see objects without any light present. 
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