Give up AC to save future generations?

coberst · #1 12-12-2008, 10:30 AM

Give up AC to save future generations?

I am inclined to think that each human generation must consider itself as the steward of the earth and therefore must make available to the succeeding generations an inheritance undiminished to that received.

In this context what does "careful and responsible management" mean? I would say that there are two things that must be begun to make the whole process feasible. The first is that the public must be convinced that it is a responsible caretaker and not an owner and secondly the public must be provided with an acceptable standard whereby it can judge how each major issue affects the accomplishment of the overall task. This is an ongoing forever responsibility for every nation but for the purpose of discussion I am going to speak about it as localized to the US.

Selfishness and greed are fundamental components of human nature. How does a nation cause its people to temper this nature when the payoff goes not to the generation presently in charge but to generations yet to come in the very distant future? Generations too far removed to be encompassed by the evolved biological impulse to care for ones kin.

How is it possible to cause a man or woman to have the same concern for a generation five times removed as that man or woman has for their own progeny? I suspect it is not possible, but it does seem to me to be necessary to accomplish the task of stewardship.

Would it be possible to cause the American people to reject completely the use of air-conditioning so that generations five times removed could survive? Is it possible to create in a person a rational response strong enough to overcome the culturally developed nature of greed and selfishness? The motivation force must be instinctually based, i.e. based upon moral instinct honed through reason in the form of a science of morality.

I claim that a compelling sense of stewardship must come through a comprehension of the science of morality (yet to be developed).

Doctor X · #2 12-12-2008, 10:48 AM

First.

--J.D.

Doctor X · #3 12-12-2008, 10:49 AM

"Air conditioned."

--J.D.

ChuckF · #4 12-12-2008, 02:09 PM

My progeny can blow me. No, wait. Your progeny can blow me.

Joshua Adams · #5 12-12-2008, 02:12 PM

Won't work. The boiling point of sperm is 100°F, so there won't even be a future generation. This is a scientific fact.

Adam · #6 12-12-2008, 02:27 PM

You can have my alternating current when you pry it out of my cold, dead laptop.

naturalist.atheist · #7 12-12-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by coberst

How is it possible to cause a man or woman to have the same concern for a generation five times removed as that man or woman has for their own progeny? I suspect it is not possible, but it does seem to me to be necessary to accomplish the task of stewardship.

Pastor Coberst, don't you have stewardship confused with the survival of the human species. Why would the rest of the planet care if the human species had any survivors five generations from now? It is not as if humans are some special source of food for any other species. Your claims of stewardship are rather specious!

yguy · #8 12-12-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by coberst

How is it possible to cause a man or woman to have the same concern for a generation five times removed as that man or woman has for their own progeny? I suspect it is not possible,

Correct. However, it IS possible to convince people that certain actions will protect future generations when in fact those actions will enslave future generations. The OP is a textbook example of such brainwashing.

Kael · #9 12-12-2008, 05:26 PM

Yep, it will enslave them to... a lack of air conditioning... or something.

beyelzu · #10 12-12-2008, 05:38 PM

I don't understand what having shitty armor class has to do with future generations.

This dm sucks.

Kael · #11 12-12-2008, 05:49 PM

Damn it, I must be tired. How did I miss the D&D joke?!

* Kael slinks to a corner in shame.

Adam · #12 12-12-2008, 06:23 PM

You and me both, pal. How did I prance right past Armor Class into Alternating Current? Bad nerd! Bad!

Doctor X · #13 12-12-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kael

Damn it, I must be tired. How did I miss the D&D joke?!

* Kael slinks to a corner in shame.

Now roll "System Shock," . . .

--J.D.

Qingdai · #14 12-13-2008, 03:21 AM

"The south shall sweat again!"

Doctor X · #15 12-13-2008, 03:54 AM

"Marching through Georgia. . . ."

--J.D.

Iacchus · #16 12-14-2008, 12:58 PM

So, what does giving up AC have to do with saving future generations? They do happen to sell "ozone-friendly" air conditioners by the way.

Charmion · #17 12-15-2008, 11:28 PM

I don't like air conditioning, especially in the car. I only use it when it's about 90 degrees. I'd rather have the wind blowing through my hair. To me, air conditoning is just stale, dead air.

GodPossessed · #18 12-16-2008, 04:34 PM

None of you are real. I am a brain in a vat of nutrients being stimulated by an HVAC technician.

Smilin · #19 12-16-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kael

Yep, it will enslave them to... a lack of air conditioning... or something.

Sovereign has gotten into your head Kael.... :yup:

Smilin · #20 12-16-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Charmion

I don't like air conditioning, especially in the car. I only use it when it's about 90 degrees. I'd rather have the wind blowing through my hair. To me, air conditoning is just stale, dead air.

Me either....

That's why I have so sleep under some sort of fan even in the dead of winter.

Gotta have that air blowing across my skin to be able to feel comfortabe and actually sleep.