Climategate 2.0

[LarsMac]

Originally Posted by Crumb

Do you even know what your point is?

He has a point?

[Crumb]

Not that I can find.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

A critical mass of people have stopped putting up with abusive bullshit, and that’s existentially threatening to abusers who rely on it for their sense of identity.

[-FX-]

I made all the good points a decade ago. I did not realize at the time it was like saying "A man can't become an actual woman", in the level of batshit insanity it produced.

If only somebody had said, after realizing I was skeptical of thier wild claims, "Oh you are climatephobe and a Nazi" way back in 2010, it would have saved so much time.

Originally Posted by -FX-

“Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden,”

“I’ve discussed this with the main funder in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.”

- Phil Jones

Hey Phil -

Originally Posted by -FX-

Hows that fear and loathing working out for you?

Now in case you didn't know it yet, which is very probable, I get joy and pleasure out of data. I suspect Randall Munroe does as well.

Originally Posted by -FX-

Except he based it on flawed data and a fallacy.

Munroe couldn't have known of course, because he put that comic up Jnuary 25 2014, way before the complete and absolute shitstorm of record cold had happened. He jumped the gun, in an effort to "control the narrative", or whatever the cool nerd kids call it these days.

I of course, being the fearless FW fondly regarded as Godzilla, arose and swept through the actual xkcd forum like a radioactive mutant aquatic lizard, because I fear nothing.

It went about like you think it would, with all scientific evidence, logic, reasoning and such disregarded, and a mob demanding censorship!

Of course that entire forum died a long time ago. So nobody gives a single fuck.

However, reading back through the archived discussion, I realize I recognize some names.

Interesting romp through the gilded age

[-FX-]

On the positive side, I just found a lot of images in the archive that no longer exists anywhere else online.

That's a win-win situation.

[-FX-]

Also, it reminded me how useless and venal most forums actually are, while at the same time the 6 or so people who always post, every day, multiple times, are actually the worst people on the forum.

[Crumb]

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

The butthurt is real, yo.

[-FX-]

While photovoltaic (PV) renewable energy production has surged, concerns remain about whether or not PV power plants induce a “heat island” (PVHI) effect, much like the increase in ambient temperatures relative to wildlands generates an Urban Heat Island effect in cities. Transitions to PV plants alter the way that incoming energy is reflected back to the atmosphere or absorbed, stored, and reradiated because PV plants change the albedo, vegetation, and structure of the terrain. Prior work on the PVHI has been mostly theoretical or based upon simulated models. Furthermore, past empirical work has been limited in scope to a single biome. Because there are still large uncertainties surrounding the potential for a PHVI effect, we examined the PVHI empirically with experiments that spanned three biomes. We found temperatures over a PV plant were regularly 3–4 °C warmer than wildlands at night, which is in direct contrast to other studies based on models that suggested that PV systems should decrease ambient temperatures.

The Photovoltaic Heat Island Effect: Larger solar power plants increase local temperatures | Scientific Reports

[Crumb]

Do you intend to explain your point in posting this? Or is it just another meaningless hit and run?

[LarsMac]

Next, they'll be bringing this up.

The Impact of Temperature on Solar Panel Efficiency

There are a number of "Solar Farms" in Eastern Colorado now, and the impact has been remarkable. They are now approaching 10% of the state's power generation through Solar energy collection.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Meanwhile from the Government of Canada



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[ceptimus]

Pretty dispiriting when governments spend time and effort producing pretty infographics cataloguing a myriad of ways they expect things to get worse.

There was a time when governments expected things to get better, and spent their effort steering their countries along what they believed to be the best path to achieve that.

Politicians always try to take the credit when things go well, but blame other politicians or things outside their control when things go badly. Who or what are they blaming this time, and who or what is really responsible?

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by ceptimus

Pretty dispiriting when governments spend time and effort producing pretty infographics cataloguing a myriad of ways they expect things to get worse.

I take this as one government agency, or maybe NGO, that is tasked with advising other departments on risks they should prepare for. That's a good and responsible thing, I suppose.

Whether governments listen to them, or to the guys with the money, is another question.

The pretty infographics are unavoidable when you have people thinking they are consultants.

[-FX-]

[JoeP]

Yes, you should be a little freaked out about Hurricane Beryl | Ars Technica

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Quack healer gets a woman do stop taking her insulin, while shes screaming in pain he fails to call for medical assistance and she dies.

This thrad because bollocks.

[JoeP]

You could have included the "slapping therapy" aspect.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Slapping euphemism:

[JoeP]

All because she was afraid of needles. No euphemisms or symbolism here, surely.

[Sock Puppet]

Aw, see? You could've put in in one of Vaccine Guy's threads.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I could put it in All of his thrads.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

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[JoeP]

Reducing the pressure towards mass immigration by reducing climate change is unnecessary. All that's necessary is that foreigners suffer.

[Stephen Maturin]

Yglesias is the smooth-brain who wrote a whole book about how glorious it would be to have a U.S. population of 1 billion.