Drive by science

[Jerome]

Ari, I already explained it. Your game is to continue asking questions already answered to fill the thread with shit, like what you have in your head.

[Jerome]

Notice the Gish Gallop going on with the globeheads.... :ohmy:

[Ari]

Bored now.

I can't remember where Jerome claims to be from but anyone else notice maths and 100.000,00?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Baahaaa!!

Did you know that the three head guys inserted fake data into the system and the entire team thought they found gravity waves?

The hoax was only exposed when the three heads guys admitted that it was just a test to see how the scientists reacted to the data.

Iow, that is just another hoax not admitted too.

Yep.

http://www.nature.com/news/gravitati...rdrive-1.19161

First observation of gravitational waves - Wikipedia

Gravitational wave - Wikipedia

Where did you read that in the article?

[Jerome]

lol, here is an example of one of their "blind detection" hoaxes: http://www.ligo.org/scientists/GW100916/index.php
http://www.ligo.org/news/blind-injection.php

"Blind Injection" Stress-Tests LIGO and VIRGO's Search for Gravitational Waves

The LIGO Scientific Collaboration and the Virgo Collaboration completed an end-to-end system test of their detection capabilities at their recent joint collaboration meeting in Arcadia, CA. Analysis of data from LIGO and Virgo's most recent observation run revealed evidence of the elusive signal from a neutron star spiraling into a black hole. The collaboration knew that the "detection" could be a "blind injection" -- a fake signal added to the data without telling the analysts, to test the detector and analysis. Nonetheless, the collaboration proceeded under the assumption that the signal was real, and wrote and approved a scientific paper reporting the ground-breaking discovery. A few moments later, according to plan, it was revealed that the signal was indeed a blind injection.

While the scientists were disappointed that the discovery was not real, the success of the analysis was a compelling demonstration of the collaboration's readiness to detect gravitational waves. LIGO and Virgo scientists are looking forward to observations with the advanced detectors which are expected to contain many real signals from the distant reaches of the universe.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

The treaty was signed in 1959, but don't let facts get in the way of your religious belief system!

Didn't go into effect till 1961, and no provisions for banning exploitation of mineral resources at that time.

Antarctic Treaty System - Wikipedia

[Jerome]

Just as easily the current claim of a real finding could be a "blind detection" and no one would be the wiser.

They are in your face mocking your religious faith in them.

[Jerome]

The Treaty specifies what can be done. They are allowed to send science explorers, and that is all.

Its very clear. There is no provision for any commercial operations, the treaty does not allow it.

Learn to read law.

[Jerome]

To make it clear to those unversed in reading law:

Each of the Contracting Parties undertakes to exert appropriate efforts, consistent with the Charter of the United Nations, to the end that no one engages in any activity in Antarctica contrary to the principles or purposes of the present Treaty.

Recognizing that it is in the interest of all mankind that Antarctica shall continue forever to be used exclusively for peaceful purposes and shall not become the scene or object of international discord;

Acknowledging the substantial contributions to scientific knowledge resulting from international cooperation in scientific investigation in Antarctica;

Convinced that the establishment of a firm foundation for the continuation and development of such cooperation on the basis of freedom of scientific investigation in Antarctica as applied during the International Geophysical Year accords with the interests of science and the progress of all mankind;

The Antarctic Treaty | NSF - National Science Foundation

All that is allowed is scientific research.

[fragment]

Jerome, why is there day and night?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

There is no provision for any commercial operations, the treaty does not allow it.

Not providing a provision, does not prevent it, only when it became economically possible to extract minerals from frozen ground, beneith snow and ice did it become necessary to exclude it.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by fragment

Jerome, why is there day and night?

PFM.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by fragment

Jerome, why is there day and night?

The sun travels above and around the circular plane. Just as any light source has its power defused over distance, so does the sun.

If we lived on a spinning globe with the sun 93 million miles away, we should never see an apparent size change when the sun moves away from our location (sunset), yet when we have dry clear atmospheric weather conditions, the sun clearly is observed to shrink in size as it moves away.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by thedoc

I will ignore the post with the actual treaty linked and quoted then will continue to make shit up.

The treaty allows *only* scientific research.

[erimir]

Originally Posted by Crumb

It's almost as if the curvature of the Earth is somehow related to gravity...

It's also almost as if the pilot (or the auto-pilot system) is purposely maintaining the plane's altitude by adjusting the wings.

Jerome may be surprised to learn that airplanes move both upward and downward! Whenever the plane is not cruising at altitude, it is not, in fact, being pulled down "at the exact rate of the Earth's curvature" which is why it is either gaining or losing altitude.

[Ari]

When I spin this ball on a string around my head it manages to keep the exact same distance from my hand the whole time you can't explain that!

[Jerome]

Magic gravity can counter the force of water spinning away from the sphere at 1,000 mph, yet can't stop a bee from flying.

Fucking lol @ the observational evidence one has to dismiss to beleive the spinning sphere theory.

You literally have to deny the reality you experience, just like the videos posted early said at their start.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by erimir

It's also almost as if the pilot (or the auto-pilot system) is purposely maintaining the plane's altitude by adjusting the wings.

So you are claiming planes do have to fly downwards to maintain altitude.

That other guy said gravity keeps the altitude consistent with the curvature.

Funny how you guys can't get the story straight...

[Crumb]

I don't think we are either of us pilots or aeronautical engineers. But the airplane is pulled to the center of the Earth much like Ari's ball on a string is pulled to his hand.

Spinning a wet ball is not a legitimate model of the Earth's oceans.

[Ari]

What? A wet ball spinning at a few thousand RPM is a perfect model of the earth in all ways.

[erimir]

Originally Posted by Crumb

Spinning a wet ball is not a legitimate model of the Earth's oceans.

Sure it is.

The ball will just need to be around 13k kilometers in diameter, and have a mass of a few sextillion tons, and be spinning around at a rate of about one rotation for every 24 hours and...

[fragment]

Originally Posted by Jerome

The sun travels above and around the circular plane. Just as any light source has its power defused over distance, so does the sun.

If we lived on a spinning globe with the sun 93 million miles away, we should never see an apparent size change when the sun moves away from our location (sunset), yet when we have dry clear atmospheric weather conditions, the sun clearly is observed to shrink in size as it moves away.

You might want to take that up with your fellow flat earthers, who say:

The sun remains the same size as it recedes into the distance due to a known magnification effect caused by the intense rays of light passing through the strata of the atmolayer.

Magnification of the Sun at Sunset - The Flat Earth Wiki

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Crumb

I don't think we are either of us pilots or aeronautical engineers. But the airplane is pulled to the center of the Earth much like Ari's ball on a string is pulled to his hand.

You are doing your thought experiment as if lift doesn't exist.

[Jerome]

You can't be saying that gravity has the same effect on the air surrounding the plane as it does on the plane itself.

The gravity equation doesn't allow for such a consideration.

[Jerome]

Ohh, and for the record, I don't have 'fellows', I think for myself.

I know you need your priests to get through the night, but that only retards thought imho.