A revolution in thought

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

I will answer your inquiry in connection with the Authentic Text in undeniable, mathematical fashion as True Steward of the Authentic Text.

The bearing of children is generally, and with a few exceptions which I will discuss below, incompatible with the coming of the Golden Age. It has less to do with hurt to the putative child, and more to do with the blame between father and mother.

In order to understand this relation, let us refresh our understanding of the basic mathematical relations on the basis of the Authentic Text:

1. Marriage is sexual relation and sexual relation is marriage. "There is no difference":



2. In order to solve the problem or marriage, "a perfectly balanced equation of sexual desire must prevail at all time." "When a boy and girl...consummate their feelings with a complete sexual relation that results in an orgasm, they are going to fall desperately in love and desire each other all the more..."



3. Individuals who have a sexual relation are married. "...and, at the very moment they indulge, with or without contraception, they sincerely pledge their love and are married, until death do they part." (emphasis added)



4. Marriage depends on the satisfaction of sexual passion, and it is impossible for one party to take any action that would refuse or decrease the availability of sex to the other party. "...a husband and wife realize from the very beginning that the security of their extreme happiness depends on arousing and satisfying the sexual passion of the other, without imposing one ounce of obligation because this is advance blame, they are given no choice as to what is better since any word or action that decreases the desire to have a passionate relation only reveals a lack of love by tacitly blaming the sexual desire of the other."



5. Married couples (who have fall in love with each other's sexual organs) are "compelled to retain the same figure" and "have to keep themselves 'fit as a fiddle and ready for love.'"



Therefore, women who become pregnant shall be compelled, of their own free will, to abort the fetus in the event that such pregnancy shall cause their figure to be altered, or otherwise affect their ability to be available at all times for sex with their partner. Additionally, this may diminish the ability to arouse and satisfy the sexual passion of the other, which is the basis of marital security. As we have learned, this "only reveals a lack of love by tacitly blaming the sexual desire of the other." Additionally, bearing a child may seek to impose obligations on the child's father, which is incompatible with marriage.

It is possible, yet unlikely, that women of more generous proportion, whose figures will not be affected by bearing a pregnancy to term, may be compelled to have the child. However, the physiological consequences that typically accompany having a child may render the woman unavailable for sex at some moment(s), and therefore not "fit as a fiddle and ready for love." This failure to maintain readiness for a sexual relation at all times is, of course, a form of blame, as noted above.

The vast majority of pregnancies must therefore be terminated in order to preserve the security of the blameless marriages of those who have fallen in love with each others' sexual organs. To do otherwise would be a form of blame that is as incompatible with the Golden Age as kissing for reasons other than as a sexual preliminary, or shaking hands.

This chapter is just an extension of the basic principle. All he is saying (and most people would agree) that to keep yourself in the shape that attracted the person to you would be to your advantage. Being appealing to your partner is something most couples try to do anyway. This is no surprise to anyone except to those who are looking for lulz. In order to do that, you are taking this concept to the absurd. No one would blame a partner for getting out of shape due to pregnancy or illness, or anything that they have no control over. Sure they could leave if they wanted to, but the love for that person which has grown strong will prevent this from occurring in most if not all cases. If a person wants to leave, no one is going to stop them. Whether you are purposely misconstruing these concepts or unintentionally misconstruing them because you lack a full understanding, I really don't know nor do I care.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You're confused about blame and because you have read the book, only took parts out, you are misconstruing the chapter on marriage. Whether you are doing this purposely or intentionally, only you know.

peacegirl, I have no interest in your Corrupted Text or your Corruptions, deletions, suppressions, etc. I understand that you reject the clear logic of the Authentic Text that I present because you are more interested in hawking your Corrupted Text. You have that right of way!

I am compelled of my own free will to be the #TrueSteward of the Authentic Text. I shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and I shall do so without blame from you. My astute observations are supported and substantiated by the Authentic Text itself and are therefore, of course, mathematical and undeniable. This is the power of the Authentic Text when it is liberated of your Corruptions - observe its potency! In a few short months I have done more in less than 400 posts than you have achieved in 5+ years and over 16,000 posts! That is the power of #TrueStewardship, peacegirl.

[Florence Jellem]

The countdown is on to the Big Three parties, boys, starting with "Party Like It's 1999." Maybe we'll even get there tonight. How exciting!

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

The countdown is on to the Big Three parties, boys, starting with "Party Like It's 1999." Maybe we'll even get there tonight. How exciting!

Ok, I-/G-/E- homo-sexuals, remember some basic ground rules:

• Absolutely no kissing unless it is a sexual preliminary
• No shaking hands
• Remember that if you fall in love with someone's sexual organs and then have a sexual relation to orgasm, you are now gay married until death do you part. I'm looking at you environmental homo-sexuals!

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This chapter is just an extension of the basic principle. All he is saying (and most people would agree) that to keep yourself in the shape that attracted the person to you would be to your advantage. Being appealing to your partner is something most couples try to do anyway. This is no surprise to anyone except to those who are looking for lulz. In order to do that, you are taking this concept to the absurd. No one would blame a partner for getting out of shape due to pregnancy or illness, or anything that they have no control over. Sure they could leave if they wanted to, but the love for that person which has grown strong will prevent this from occurring in most if not all cases. If a person wants to leave, no one is going to stop them. Whether you are purposely misconstruing these concepts or unintentionally misconstruing them (which wouldn't surprise me because you don't have a full understanding of these concepts), I really don't know nor do I care.

Setting aside (as we are compelled to do) all of the other Corruptions in peacegirl's post quoted above, as True Steward of the Authentic Text, I must confess that it saddens me to see peacegirl dismiss the Authentic Text as "the absurd." However, I will not blame her for it.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Setting aside (as we are compelled to do) all of the other Corruptions in peacegirl's post quoted above, as True Steward of the Authentic Text, I must confess that it saddens me to see peacegirl dismiss the Authentic Text as "the absurd." However, I will not blame her for it.

It would be like blaming a chimp for flinging its own feces.

[Stephen Maturin]

"The truth is I'm drunk, and I can't seem to pull myself together to answer these ridiculous questions."

~ peacegirl (early morning of Aug. 5, 2011)

Excessive alcohol consumption may well be a viable explanation for referring to the Authentic Text as "absurd."

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

In order to do that, you are taking this concept to the absurd. No one would blame a partner for getting out of shape due to pregnancy or illness, or anything that they have no control over.

Whether you are purposely misconstruing these concepts or unintentionally misconstruing them because you lack a full understanding, I really don't know nor do I care.

Are you implying that a couple has no control over the woman getting pregnant?

Of course you do care, or else you wouldn't try to post a rebuttal. ChuckF is certainly not misconstruing the authentic text, but is presenting an accurate representation of it. And he is to be applauded for being the "True Steward" of the authentic text.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

"The truth is I'm drunk, and I can't seem to pull myself together to answer these ridiculous questions."

~ peacegirl (early morning of Aug. 5, 2011)

Excessive alcohol consumption may well be a viable explanation for referring to the Authentic Text as "absurd."

It could also explain why Peacegirl accepts Lessans book as true without question.

[Florence Jellem]

Light check for the approaching parties:



Carry on, boys.

[Stephen Maturin]

I understand that the late, great George Michael will be making a special guest appearance via satellite from the Germinal World of Potential Consciousness during at least one of the parties for the benefit of our homo-sexual guests.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

I understand that the late, great George Michael will be making a special guest appearance via satellite from the Germinal World of Potential Consciousness during at least one of the parties for the benefit of our homo-sexual guests.

Good of him to attend even after having been compelled to fall by the wayside.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by thedoc

It could also explain why Peacegirl accepts Lessans book as true without question.

I respectfully disagree, doc. The Authentic Text is Lessans' book. peacegirl rejects the Authentic Text and instead peddles her own Corrupted Text online at $41.00 a pop. Since the Corrupted Text bears virtually no resemblance to the material Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime, I don't think we can reasonably say that "peacegirl accepts Lessans' book as true."

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

I respectfully disagree, doc. The Authentic Text is Lessans' book. peacegirl rejects the Authentic Text and instead peddles her own Corrupted Text online at $41.00 a pop. Since the Corrupted Text bears virtually no resemblance to the material Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime, I don't think we can reasonably say that "peacegirl accepts Lessans' book as true."

I believe you misunderstand, I was referring to her acceptance of the corrupted text, and not to her acceptance of the authentic text as being the true word of her father. The corrupted text is the one that I have read and have a PDF copy on my computer and Peacegirl accepts as the word of her father.

[Florence Jellem]

Coming soon, boys ...


... Eyes were all efferent
There were dogs with levers everywhere
Tryin' to run from my corruption
You know I didn't even care ...



Party Like It's MCMXCIX!

See you there!

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

There is nothing wrong with asking questions Angakuk. Boy are you confused.

Originally Posted by The Authentic Text, which Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his lifetime, of which ChuckF is the one and only True Steward

Another form of advanced blame and related to asking favors, is asking questions.

You were saying?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

You were saying?

Let us now move on to another form of advance blame, related to
favors, which is the asking of questions. It is impossible to ask a favor
without asking a question which means that every time we ask a
question we are asking someone in an indirect way to do us a favor by
answering us. In fact, the very moment someone asks a question he
blames the possibility it might not be answered, proof of which is
easily demonstrated when not answering makes him angry because he
feels foolish and believes it is a sign of disrespect. “What time is it?
I asked you a question. Just look at your watch and tell me what time
it is. Are you trying to be funny? I know you hear me, so why don’t
you answer?” Finding out the time could have been as simple as
going into the kitchen where there is a clock on the wall, or calling the
automated message on the telephone.

We will stop asking questions
of others the same way we stop asking favors of one another when we
realize that any question is a form of tacit blame which strikes the first
blow by judging that others should desire to answer. Even though
they cannot be blamed for not answering questions that are an
annoyance to them, they are compelled to answer all of our questions
so as not to hurt us and make us look foolish. When we know
absolutely and positively that no one will blame us for asking
unnecessary questions, we are prevented from finding satisfaction
from doing this, which makes us think like never before. The removal
of this form of tacit blame revolutionizes many things. There will
obviously be a need for some questions, but these will be limited to
questions that someone cannot answer for himself.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by thedoc

The corrupted text is the one that I have read and have a PDF copy on my computer and Peacegirl accepts as the word of her father.

Quite so. Until recently, none of us had anything to go on other than the Corrupted Text. Now, though, the 100% nonreligious God - acting through our True Steward - has sent us the Authentic Text, the real deal!

Originally Posted by peacegirl

peacegirl, why do you even bother quoting your Corrupted Text, which is corrupt, when thanks to ChuckF everyone here knows the Corrupted Text is a fraud?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Quite so. Until recently, none of us had anything to go on other than the Corrupted Text. Now, though, the 100% nonreligious God - acting through our True Steward - has sent us the Authentic Text, the real deal!

peacegirl, why do you even bother quoting your Corrupted Text, which is corrupt, when thanks to ChuckF everyone here knows the Corrupted Text is a fraud?

Why are you avoiding my challenge to you to show me where I contradict myself? I'm still waiting. Put up or shut up.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why are you avoiding my challenge to you to show me where I contradict myself? I'm still waiting. Own up or shut up.

peacegirl, no one is particularly concerned with or interested in whatever contradictory conversations you may be having with yourself at any given time. That is your business, not ours, and has nothing to do with the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, of which I am the True Steward. We reject your Corrupted Text.

[Stephen Maturin]

peacegirl, I provided links and quotes in a post I made just over a week ago, a post to which you responded. If you're too goddamn lazy to click on a link or too goddamn stupid to comprehend direct quotes - and apparently you are - then I can't help you.

Moreover, I have no desire to rehash our prior discussions about the Corrupted Text, which I now know is a fraud you perpetrated as a (failed) money-making scheme.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl, why do you even bother quoting your Corrupted Text, which is corrupt, when thanks to ChuckF everyone here knows the Corrupted Text is a fraud?

I can't believe how long I've had to cope with peacegirl. I can't even post without her butting in with some Corruption or some excerpt from her Corrupted Text. She has infiltrated this thread like a virus.

[Stephen Maturin]

Srsly. Doesn't she have anything better to do than follow you wherever you go? She must be in love or something.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

peacegirl, I provided links and quotes in a post I made just over a week ago, a post to which you responded. If you're too goddamn lazy to click on a link or too goddamn stupid to comprehend direct quotes - and apparently you are - then I can't help you.

Moreover, I have no desire to rehash our prior discussions about the Corrupted Text, which I now know is a fraud you perpetrated as a (failed) money-making scheme.

You are copping out big time. Show me where I contradicted myself, which is the basis for your attack. If you can't do that, you're the worst fraud of all. Put up or shut up Maturin. And by the way you have no idea regarding my health condition. I have been very ill since 1997 with adrenal insufficiency, immune dysfunction, tinnitus, fibromyalgia (debilitating muscle pain) and many other related symptoms which are too numerous to mention. Just because I still have my mind (thank God since mental fog is often one of the symptoms of this disease) doesn't mean I don't struggle every single day, so please stop telling people I am taking advantage of the system. I am not! I am trying to function as best I can and I am grateful for any help that can get me through this difficult season of my life.

[Florence Jellem]

Are we there yet, boys?

The I-homos are in the house. Hello, I-homos!