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03-22-2016, 10:08 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Are you going to do anything now other than insult people, Peacegirl?
Daddy would be so proud.
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Bump.
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03-22-2016, 10:08 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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You are right; in the afferent account of VISION, there hasn't been time for light to reach the eye.
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There hasn't been time in the efferent account either. How do your photons get from the source to the retina in zero time?
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It's not zero time, but it's not 8 minutes. You say that the farther away the object is the longer it takes to reach the eye. That IS the afferent position. If you think in terms of the efferent position, distance IS NOT A FACTOR. If DISTANCE IS NOT A FACTOR, then seeing the Sun turned at noon on would be analogous to lighting a candle in a room. It would be virtually instant.
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If it is anything less than 8 minutes then the light cannot have gotten to the retina by traveling from the object at light speed. So how do your photons at the retina get from the object to the retina in whatever sub-8-min time you think it takes?
I already explained why your candle example does not work, and you have not explained how distance is not a factor. The only way for the distance to not be a factor is if you have some alternative, other than light speed travel, for how your photons get from the object to the retina. Do you have that? We could resolve this easily if you would just answer my questions.
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
Please answer my questions about THESE photons (the ones at the camera film or retina on Earth at 12:00 when the Sun is first ignited), and without mentioning or reverting to any other different photons.
You need photons at the camera film or retina when the Sun is first ignited.
Are they traveling photons?
Did they come from the Sun?
Did they get to the film/retina by traveling?
Did they travel at the speed of light?
Can they leave the Sun before it is ignited?
Don't commit the postman's mistake by talking about different photons from those which are at the film/retina at 12:00. Don't even mention any photons other than those I have asked about. If you get to the end of the questions and realize the photons you are talking about are not the ones at the film/retina at 12:00, then you have fucked up again and have failed to actually answer what was asked.
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03-22-2016, 10:13 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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You are right; in the afferent account of VISION, there hasn't been time for light to reach the eye.
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There hasn't been time in the efferent account either. How do your photons get from the source to the retina in zero time?
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It's not zero time, but it's not 8 minutes. You say that the farther away the object is the longer it takes to reach the eye. That IS the afferent position. If you think in terms of the efferent position, distance IS NOT A FACTOR. If DISTANCE IS NOT A FACTOR, then seeing the Sun turned at noon on would be analogous to lighting a candle in a room. It would be virtually instant.
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If it is anything less than 8 minutes then the light cannot have gotten to the retina by traveling from the object at light speed. So how do your photons at the retina get from the object to the retina in whatever sub-8-min time you think it takes?
I already explained why your candle example does not work, and you have not explained how distance is not a factor. The only way for the distance to not be a factor is if you have some alternative, other than light speed travel, for how your photons get from the object to the retina. Do you have that? We could resolve this easily if you would just answer my questions.
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
Please answer my questions about THESE photons (the ones at the camera film or retina on Earth at 12:00 when the Sun is first ignited), and without mentioning or reverting to any other different photons.
You need photons at the camera film or retina when the Sun is first ignited.
Are they traveling photons?
Did they come from the Sun?
Did they get to the film/retina by traveling?
Did they travel at the speed of light?
Can they leave the Sun before it is ignited?
Don't commit the postman's mistake by talking about different photons from those which are at the film/retina at 12:00. Don't even mention any photons other than those I have asked about. If you get to the end of the questions and realize the photons you are talking about are not the ones at the film/retina at 12:00, then you have fucked up again and have failed to actually answer what was asked.
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You are obsessed!
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03-22-2016, 10:13 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH TO THIS GROUP
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Well, plenty of Lulz, that is true.
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(I'M NOT ASKING FOR REPAYMENT)
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Imagine our relief!
Can we talk about the sexy robes now?
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03-22-2016, 10:15 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Are you going to do anything now other than insult people, Peacegirl?
Daddy would be so proud.
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Bump.
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Daddy would understand. You have all brought out the worst in me because of your aggression. I am justified in striking back.
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03-22-2016, 10:17 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
Please answer my questions about THESE photons (the ones at the camera film or retina on Earth at 12:00 when the Sun is first ignited), and without mentioning or reverting to any other different photons.
You need photons at the camera film or retina when the Sun is first ignited.
Are they traveling photons?
Did they come from the Sun?
Did they get to the film/retina by traveling?
Did they travel at the speed of light?
Can they leave the Sun before it is ignited?
Don't commit the postman's mistake by talking about different photons from those which are at the film/retina at 12:00. Don't even mention any photons other than those I have asked about. If you get to the end of the questions and realize the photons you are talking about are not the ones at the film/retina at 12:00, then you have fucked up again and have failed to actually answer what was asked.
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03-22-2016, 10:20 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Daddy would understand. You have all brought out the worst in me because of your aggression. I am justified in striking back.
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You think your father would approve of your evasion, lies, and insults?
What does that say about him? (Rhetorical question which does not need answering, unlike those you continue to evade.)
Do you imagine him alongside you, cheering you on each time you lie, insult someone, or evade a question?
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03-22-2016, 10:25 PM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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Are you going to do anything now other than insult people, Peacegirl?
Daddy would be so proud.
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Bump.
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Daddy would understand. You have all brought out the worst in me because of your aggression. I am justified in striking back.
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And no-one will blame you, that's just the way we are here.
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03-22-2016, 10:28 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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THIS IS MY THREAD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU FUCK OFF!!!!!
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It's not your thread, you silly cow. To the extent it belongs to anyone other than the owners of the site, it belongs to anyone who chooses to post in it.
And there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.
But hey, please, by all means, keep up the ranting, raving, foot-stomping and other expressions of impotent rage. I get a kick out of 63-year-olds acting like 3-year-olds.
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"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
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03-22-2016, 10:28 PM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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(I'M NOT ASKING FOR REPAYMENT)
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Imagine our relief!
Can we talk about the sexy robes now?
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I'm sure that everyone here would be willing to pay you exactly what your contribution is worth.
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03-22-2016, 10:35 PM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Do you imagine him alongside you, cheering you on each time you lie, insult someone, or evade a question?
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He was a salesman, that do you expect? (With apologies to all honest salesmen out there, both of you (I know - I'm being generous, - It's just how I was brought up.).)
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03-23-2016, 01:27 AM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin
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THIS IS MY THREAD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU FUCK OFF!!!!!
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It's not your thread, you silly cow. To the extent it belongs to anyone other than the owners of the site, it belongs to anyone who chooses to post in it.
And there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.
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I didn't say there was something I could do about it, but I did start this thread which means that if I leave there is no thread. I know you don't want me to leave Maturin. You love me too much.
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But hey, please, by all means, keep up the ranting, raving, foot-stomping and other expressions of impotent rage. I get a kick out of 63-year-olds acting like 3-year-olds.
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To you, this is all the entertainment you need. You would keep this charade going for another 5 years if you had your say. It's better than watching prime time t.v. -- and it's free.
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03-23-2016, 01:47 AM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
Answer my questions.
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03-23-2016, 01:58 AM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I didn't say there was something I could do about it,
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Good, because there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
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but I did start this thread which means that if I leave there is no thread.
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Doesn't mean that at all. We could use this thread as a vehicle for mocking you and Lessans for years to come, if the path of greater satisfaction leads us that way.
And there wouldn't be a goddamn thing you could do about it.
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin
But hey, please, by all means, keep up the ranting, raving, foot-stomping and other expressions of impotent rage. I get a kick out of 63-year-olds acting like 3-year-olds.
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To you, this is free entertainment.
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How insightful.
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You would keep this charade going for another 5 years if you had your say.
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If you're still alive five years hence, you'll be right here squabbling with strangers about efferent vision and littering the landscape with booze-soaked all-caps tirades. You know it, I know it.
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"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
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03-23-2016, 03:18 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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To you, this is all the entertainment you need. You would keep this charade going for another 5 years if you had your say. It's better than watching prime time t.v. -- and it's free.
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Now that is the truest thing you have said in years. However there things and people in my life that are more entertaining than you, and they share my incredulity at what you are posting.
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03-23-2016, 03:22 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Do you imagine him alongside you, cheering you on each time you lie, insult someone, or evade a question?
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From her posts, I am sure that she imagines quite a lot, just like her father did. Now I wonder just how many of her posts are dictated by her imaginary friends?
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03-23-2016, 04:12 AM
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Re: A revolution in thought
I am not ok with this.
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03-23-2016, 04:56 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I am not ok with this.
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Could you explain why, or are you going to play Peacegirl?
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03-23-2016, 05:12 AM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I am not ok with this.
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Could you explain why, or are you going to play Peacegirl?
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See his avatar?
Sorry, I couldn't resist using Pimp Brezhnev to exemplify Vivisectus's rakishly tilted hat, since there were no smilies about translucent robes or sexy jackets.
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03-23-2016, 05:32 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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See his avatar?
Sorry, I couldn't resist using Pimp Brezhnev to exemplify Vivisectus's rakishly tilted hat, since there were no smilies about translucent robes or sexy jackets.
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I don't get it?
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03-23-2016, 05:38 AM
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Spiffiest wanger
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by thedoc
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See his avatar?
Sorry, I couldn't resist using Pimp Brezhnev to exemplify Vivisectus's rakishly tilted hat, since there were no smilies about translucent robes or sexy jackets.
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I don't get it?
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Freethought Forum - View Single Post - A revolution in thought
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03-23-2016, 05:39 AM
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Spiffiest wanger
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Re: A revolution in thought
Er, and his avatar is Brezhnev.
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03-23-2016, 05:46 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Er, and his avatar is Brezhnev.
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Oh, - sorry, I missed that.
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03-23-2016, 05:50 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Originally Posted by thedoc
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See his avatar?
Sorry, I couldn't resist using Pimp Brezhnev to exemplify Vivisectus's rakishly tilted hat, since there were no smilies about translucent robes or sexy jackets.
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I don't get it?
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Freethought Forum - View Single Post - A revolution in thought
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I am so glad that I don't live in a no-blame society.
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