Climategate 2.0 - Page 7

Angakuk · #**151** 12-12-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kael

Looks a lot more like temperature follows CO2 concentrations. Are you suggesting that temperature variations somehow trigger the release and removal of CO2 from the atmosphere? Can you propose a mechanism for that, besides the incredulity of the fevered depths of your imagination?

It looks to me like they follow each other. You know, like it was some sort of, I dunno, this is just a wild guess, positive feedback loop.

Doctor X · #**152** 12-19-2011, 10:13 AM

Stolen shamelessly from Anaxagoras.

--J.D.

Kyuss Apollo · #**153** 12-20-2011, 02:56 AM

Every time you post a link to FoxNews, an overloaded refugee boat breaks in half.

TVcameraman · #**154** 12-20-2011, 07:03 AM

Global warming has been happening on and off for hundreds of thousands of years. It would be interesting to know where we are on the temperature average for about the last 500,000 years... Are we warmer or cooler??

Clutch Munny · #**155** 12-20-2011, 12:43 PM

Why would that be interesting?

Jerome · #**156** 12-20-2011, 01:31 PM

Because it debunks the myth that man is heating the Earth into a global catastrophic collapse.

Pan Narrans · #**157** 12-20-2011, 01:43 PM

No it doesn't.

Jerome · #**158** 12-20-2011, 01:46 PM

Pan Narrans · #**159** 12-20-2011, 02:06 PM

And?

fragment · #**160** 12-20-2011, 06:42 PM

That is a very silly graph.

Angakuk · #**161** 12-20-2011, 08:10 PM

Lovely pinks though.

Jerome · #**162** 12-20-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pan Narrans

And?

It debunks the myth that man is heating the Earth into a global catastrophic collapse.

Pan Narrans · #**163** 12-20-2011, 09:50 PM

How do you think it does that?

Jerome · #**164** 12-20-2011, 09:52 PM

The data is following the natural cycle.

chunksmediocrites · #**165** 12-21-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

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Originally Posted by Pan Narrans

And?

It debunks the myth that man is heating the Earth into a global catastrophic collapse.

I'm going to say that it proves that human impact on climate change is real.

Let's play assertions unsupported by a silly graph!

TVcameraman · #**166** 12-21-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

The data is following the natural cycle.

Yes... I am trying to show that there is a natural cycle to the world... and universe. Also, some scientists believe that CO2 actually lags behind global warming by as much as 400-1000 years.

CO2 Science

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html

Our world is alive. Oceans raising and lowering, land masses moving... All these things create climate change. And we still have not mentioned anything outside our small planet yet....

Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade â€¢ The Register

That bright spot in the sky we know as the Sun also has changes... Sometimes being more active, while other times being less active...

And, we still haven't gotten into precession...

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/l...recession.html

Precession

These might also be of interest.... Enjoy....

fragment · #**167** 12-21-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

The data is following the natural cycle.

What natural cycle? The one someone pulled out of their ass with no evidence for its existence nor physical mechanism to explain it?

TVcameraman · #**168** 12-21-2011, 07:59 AM

One more for you... Heinrich Events...

http://www3.geosc.psu.edu/courses/Ge...nrich_Peto.pdf

mickthinks · #**169** 12-21-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TVcameraman

.... CO2 actually lags behind global warming by as much as 400-1000 years ... Oceans raising and lowering, land masses moving... ... That bright spot in the sky we know as the Sun also has changes... precession... Heinrich Events...

Okay TVcameraman, you obviously haven't read the back thread here and are jumping in as if we need you to tell us what we already know - which is like The First Don't for anyone who hopes to be taken for a grown-up contributor to an internet forum.

But just because you are crap at nettiquette, doesn't mean you are wrong, right? So, giving you the benefit of all the doubt I have, I'm left with this question:

Do you believe that climate scientists don't know about, or have ignored, any of those issues you've linked, and can you say why you believe that.

In other words, TVC, can you explain why you think any of your links are important?

The Lone Ranger · #**170** 12-21-2011, 11:03 AM

Astonishingly enough, climate scientists are well aware of such phenomena as the Milankovitch cycles and the precession of the Earth's rotational axis. That's precisely the concern: the current rate of warming is far faster than can be accounted for by non-anthropogenic factors. Especially when you consider that we should be experiencing a cooling trend right now.

Doctor X · #**171** 12-21-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

Especially when you consider that we should be experiencing a cooling trend right now.

Well it is :shiver:

here . . . EXPLAIN THAT!!!1!!1111!

CHEKCMAIT ATHIEST

--J.D.

Jeroll · #**172** 12-23-2011, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

Astonishingly enough, climate scientists are well aware of such phenomena as the Milankovitch cycles and the precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I"m a fan of Malkovitch cycles.