A Revolution in Thought: Part Two

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

How is a reader to know which of the numerous conversations were true experiences and which you added yourself as illustrations?

At this stage I doubt peacegirl knows which is which.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

At this stage I doubt peacegirl knows which is which.

I know you love to make me the fool, but it doesn't matter because I'm not the fool. Think what you want, do what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

LOL, I am 100% right and if you disagree you are stubborn and unable to perceive the relations I came up with which are 100% right.

Yeah, humble guy right there.

You don't want to admit you couldn't see the Emperor's new clothes, doesn't mean the rest of humanity can't see that he's naked as a jaybird.

Let me ask you a question LadyShea. You are so sure you're right obviously. What happens when you turn out to be wrong? Your attitude is really aggressive and because of it you think Lessans is the Emperor and you all are so smart to recognize the falseness of his reasoning. I'm telling you that you are wrong, and now you're bringing other people into this discussion because you are not thinking for yourself. It is turning into a catch 22. The more I claim Lessans is right, the more you resist, and the more you resist the more I'm trying to show you that Lessans is right. What more can I say to convince you of your faulty thinking? You have created a problem for yourself and others who are listening to your remarks which have no basis in truth. I have to admit I don't think I can overcome this humongous obstacle. And you won't budge.

[LadyShea]

Lessans was so sure he was right, and you're so sure he was right. What if it turns out he was wrong? His attitude was really smug and self important, and because of it you think Lessans was infallible and correct in his claims of undeniability, and you think you are so smart to recognize the falseness of everyone else's valid criticisms of his work. I'm telling you that you are wrong and that Lessans was wrong.

The more I claim Lessans wa wrong, the more you resist, and the more you resist the more I'm trying to show you that Lessans was wrong. What more can I say to convince you of your faultiness? You have created a problem for yourself and others who are listening to your remarks which have no basis in truth. I have to admit I don't think I can overcome this humongous obstacle. And you won't budge.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

Lessans was so sure he was right, and you're so sure he was right. What if it turns out he was wrong? His attitude was really smug and self important, and because of it you think Lessans was infallible and correct in his claims of undeniability, and you think you are so smart to recognize the falseness of everyone else's valid criticisms of his work. I'm telling you that you are wrong and that Lessans was wrong.

The more I claim Lessans wa wrong, the more you resist, and the more you resist the more I'm trying to show you that Lessans was wrong. What more can I say to convince you of your faultiness? You have created a problem for yourself and others who are listening to your remarks which have no basis in truth. I have to admit I don't think I can overcome this humongous obstacle. And you won't budge.

Twist things around. Make them circular. And lose out LadyShea. I am not invested in you learning this material. Stay where you are. It's okay with me. Actually, I think you are a very perceptive individual and I appreciate your determination to decipher the truth from the lies. Unfortunately, you are losing the very truth you are searching for. I still wish you the very best. I hold nothing against you.

[LadyShea]

Nothing was twisted, only reflected. I simply used your own argument to show it from my perspective...I thought maybe your very own words would better penetrate your skull.

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know you love to make me the fool, but it doesn't matter because I'm not the fool. Think what you want, do what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.

Yes, and the truth is that NASA uses delayed-time seeing calculations to send spacecraft to Mars. That, and more than a hundred other examples given to your sorry, dishonest ass, prove that Lessans was wrong. More, he was a buffoon.

And you are a liar. Lessans was too uneducated to know about this stuff that disproved his claims, but you don't have that excuse. So you are a dishonest serial liar. And when it comes to the Mars example, you can't even begin to confabulate your way out of a paper bag, so of course you ignore this disproof of Lessans's BS. It's all very transparent.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know you love to make me the fool, but it doesn't matter because I'm not the fool. Think what you want, do what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.

peacegirl, others think you are a fool or a liar. I think you are crazy. If you are a fool there isn't much you can do. If you are a liar then you know what is right but choose wrong. If you are crazy you can get help. Get help peacegirl.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Think what you want, do what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.

The same can be said to you Peacegirl. The main difference is that you do not have a clue what the truth is.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Let me ask you a question LadyShea. You are so sure you're right obviously. What happens when you turn out to be wrong?

Peacegirl, you do understand that LadyShea was mocking you, you can't be that stupid? However she is correct on most, if not all, of what she says on this subject.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

Nothing was twisted, only reflected. I simply used your own argument to show it from my perspective...I thought maybe your very own words would better penetrate your skull.

Oh be quiet already with your condescending attitude LadyShea. This thread has taught me how difficult it is for a truth to come against conventional thinking, and how easy it is to twist what is being said, like the one where you stated that Lessans believed we only need to fall in love with someone's genitals. That's the most insane thing I've heard yet. The second most insane thing that was used to discredit Lessans is that in the new world Lessans is giving free rein to doctors who will no longer need a license to practice. It's beyond insanity how people have taken things out of context on purpose, just to make Lessans look idiotic. But they're not going to get away with this in the long run because the truth always wins.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

peacegirl, others think you are a fool or a liar. I think you are crazy. If you are a fool there isn't much you can do. If you are a liar then you know what is right but choose wrong. If you are crazy you can get help. Get help peacegirl.

I think you're so full of shit NA you don't know which ends up, so who cares what you think? In your passive/aggressive pretend caring attitude, you are making a fool of yourself because everyone can see right through you.

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Oh be quiet already with your condescending attitude LadyShea. This thread has taught me how difficult it is for a truth to come against conventional thinking, and how easy it is to twist what is being said, like the one where you stated that Lessans believed we only need to fall in love with someone's genitals. That's the most insane thing I've heard yet. The second most insane thing that was used to discredit Lessans is that in the new world Lessans is giving free rein to doctors who will no longer need a license to practice. It's beyond insanity how people have taken things out of context on purpose, just to make Lessans look idiotic. But they're not going to get away with this in the long run because the truth always wins.

Those are, of course, EXACTLY things that he said. He also said that when light arrives at earth, it becomes STATIC, and waits to "smile on us" in the morning. I know you took the book down because you are secretly and quite properly ashamed of it. Did you forget that several people here downloaded it to their hard drives?

[But]

Davidm, you think you are spot on but you are all washed up with the bath water if Lessans is right. This has nothing to do with these principles.

[davidm]

Hey, peacegirl, he also said it was a mathematical certainty that husbands and wives would no longer share the same bed! Remember how you denied that he said this, and we hauled out for you the quote in which he said that very thing?

It won't do any good to tinker with the text now to hide these embarrassing statements, the way that you changed "molecules" of light to "photons." Too late. People have the original text that you linked here on their hard drives.

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

like the one where you stated that Lessans believed we only need to fall in love with someone's genitals.

Those were his exact words, no need to twist anything. He said if you can't get the girl that looks the way you like, fall in love with someone's genitals. He also said it is impossible to fall in love with someone who cannot have sexual relations due to not having genitals. He didn't say unlikely, he said IMPOSSIBLE.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by davidm

People have the original text that you linked here on their hard drives.

Can I possibly get a copy from someone?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Can I possibly get a copy from someone?

I have a copy on my other computer, but I'll need help to figure out how to e-mail it to you. If someone else has a copy, and can send it to you, that might be faster. My copy is a PDF and the computer I'm on now doesn't like PDF's. I know it's just a matter of downloading the right program.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by thedoc

I have a copy on my other computer, but I'll need help to figure out how to e-mail it to you. If someone else has a copy, and can send it to you, that might be faster. My copy is a PDF and the computer I'm on now doesn't like PDF's. I know it's just a matter of downloading the right program.

Thanks, I'll PM you my email address. You should be able to include the PDF file as an attachment in an email without your computer needing to be able to read or open it. There's no rush or anything, it would just be nice to have a souvenir of the madness.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I think you're so full of shit NA you don't know which ends up, so who cares what you think? In your passive/aggressive pretend caring attitude, you are making a fool of yourself because everyone can see right through you.

peacegirl, just go get help. If you are sane you will have a diagnosis to show it, which is more than most people have. And then you can continue promoting the work of the "great man". But if not you will get treatment and your life will improve. You win either way.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Thanks, I'll PM you my email address. You should be able to include the PDF file as an attachment in an email without your computer needing to be able to read or open it. There's no rush or anything, it would just be nice to have a souvenir of the madness.

N.A. says that I shouldn't send copyrighted material, so be it, I have been corrected.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by thedoc

N.A. says that I shouldn't send copyrighted material, so be it, I have been corrected.

Okay, no problem.

[LadyShea]

peacegirl had it free and publicly available for download for many months. Copies on people's harddrives are no different than having a papercopy and lending it out

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

peacegirl had it free and publicly available for download for many months. Copies on people's harddrives are no different than having a papercopy and lending it out

Tell that to Napster, Grokster, Madster and eDonkey.

If you think that peacegirl is merely dishonest and greedy instead of crazy why would you want to make it easy for her to fuck with you?

You can't distribute copyrighted materials without the owners permission [PERIOD]. So get peacegirls permission if you can.

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

He mentioned that we're not talking about what others do to us.

If he mentioned it why can't you quote him doing so?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I did explain it, but you failed to listen...

You tried to explain why you thought it was a fact but you failed to demonstrate that it was a fact. That is a fact.