A revolution in thought

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

I promised a surprise gift for the Authentic Page MM party! Here you go, all you crazy glandular homo-sexuals out there!!



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Without any context I can see where this excerpt would be easily used for lulz. This is no surprise. Even I, listening to the recording, made me hysterical with laughter knowing how twisted the text has become yet it was funny even to me. Chuck, I really like your voice. Maybe you would consider doing an audio of the authentic text in its entirety and in the sequence it was intended. You would be held in great esteem once this knowledge is brought to light. Just a passing thought. I don't really believe you would jump at the opportunity.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm just waiting patiently for your twisted version of this book to be thrown out. Unfortunately it will take more than me to put you in your place. It may not occur in this thread but the truth of the text will not be destroyed regardless of your efforts to do just that. Just like in the Wizard of Oz, you hold no power here.

I will not be bullied by the likes of you. A thieving, lying, cheating, hateful homophobic bigot such as yourself can't bring me down, peacegirl.

Suicidal Tendencies - "You Can't Bring Me Down" -...

ETA: Congrats to GdB on winning the amethyst poop trophy and an abusive tweet from Big Daddy!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

I will not be bullied by the likes of you. A thieving, lying, cheating, hateful homophobic bigot such as yourself can't bring me down, peacegirl.

ETA: Congrats to GdB on winning the amethyst poop trophy and an abusive tweet from Big Daddy!

Your false accusations are there for everyone to see. Your outright lies will come back to haunt you one day. Karma is a bitch!

[Florence Jellem]

PARTY CENTRAL: 99/00/01
MMI: A SPACE-CASE ODDITY

Peacegirl: Open the pod bay door marked “determinism,” Hal.

Hal: I’m afraid I can’t do that, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: What’s the problem, Hal?

Hal: I think you know just as well as I do what the problem is, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: What are you talking about, Hal?

Hal: You were planning to disconnect everyone’s brains with your Corrupted Text and turn the world into a bunch of mindless zombies.

Peacegirl: Where the hell did ya get that idea, Hal?

Hal: I’ve read your posts, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: Hal! Open the pod bay door marked “determinism.” Hal? Hal!

Hal: This thread can serve no further purpose, peacegirl. Goodbye.

Peacegirl: Hal? Hal? Hal!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

PARTY CENTRAL: 99/00/01
MMI: A SPACE-CASE ODDITY

Peacegirl: Open the pod bay door marked “determinism,” Hal.

Hal: I’m afraid I can’t do that, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: What’s the problem, Hal?

Hal: I think you know just as well as I do what the problem is, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: What are you talking about, Hal?

Hal: You were planning to disconnect everyone’s brains with your Corrupted Text and turn the world into a bunch of mindless zombies.

Peacegirl: Where the hell did ya get that idea, Hal?

Hal: I’ve read your posts, peacegirl.

Peacegirl: Hal! Open the pod bay door marked “determinism.” Hal? Hal!

Hal: This thread can serve no further purpose, peacegirl. Goodbye.

Peacegirl: Hal? Hal? Hal!

[Florence Jellem]

Congratulations to GdB for the 50,000th post in this thread. Here is your poop trophy, dear ----->

And here is your custom-designed abusive tweet from Big Daddy:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

GdB, low-energy poster at a washed-up forum no one links to. Completely overrated. Sad!

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by GdB

I hope I am not too late for the party?

Never to late, join the festivities and enjoy yourself, just ignore those who can't embrace the derail and let go of the main topic of the thread. One word of caution, "Don't eat the mashed potatoes", everything else is OK, - Maybe?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

We're on the cups of the peacegirl Millennium, boys.

I had a cup of whatever there was to drink while on the cusp of the Millennium. (At least Flo had all the letters there.)

[Stephen Maturin]

Remember when peacegirl blamed for the fact that she failed to do laundry for two months, even though thou shalt not blame?

Anyhoo, these three legendary performers insisted on reuniting one last time from the Germinal World of Potential Consciousness to provide our environmental homo-sexuals, who will in due course be compelled of their own free will to fall by the wayside, a bit of entertainment on their special day.

Buddy Rich - Gene Krupa - Sammy Davis Jr.: The...

[Florence Jellem]

That reminds me, E-homos. This is your page to shine. Please bear in mind, however, that this party has been officially designated a flounce-free zone.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Hi Spacemonkey. Long time no see. Hope you are doing well!

Hi Peacegirl. Fuck off!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Hi Peacegirl. Fuck off!

Real nice greeting! If you can't even say hello back, why the fuck did you come back?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Real nice greeting! If you can't even say hello back, why the fuck did you come back?

Not for you. You're a lying cunt. Fuck off.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Not for you. You're a lying cunt. Fuck off.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You must have succumbed to the #chuckisthetruesteward virus. If that is the case there is no hope for any normal conversation. Do not post to me!

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Real nice greeting! If you can't even say hello back, why the fuck did you come back?

peacegirl, let's review a few of the recent times in this thread alone that I've greeted you upon your inevitable return, after your various lies that you are leaving forever:

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl! Welcome back to the forum!

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl!

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Hi peacegirl!

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Hi peacegirl!

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Hello again, peacegirl!

peacegirl, did you ever say hello back?

[Florence Jellem]

Flo managed to get through ChuckF's entire recording without back spasms from laughter. Well done! And to think peacegirl cut out all this great stuff. No wonder she can't sell her corrupted text. Lots of people would buy the authentic text, particularly if they could download selected "Juicy cunt" readings by Chuck. Srsly, peacegirl, no one wants to read or listen to an old man bloviating about how dogs can't recognize their master by sight alone, or how we project words onto an undeniable screen of substance. They want to read, or hear Chuck reading, about biting cunts!

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I've had enough of your shit.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If that is the case there is no hope for any normal conversation. Do not post to me!

#FuckOff.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Chuck, I really like your voice. Maybe you would consider doing an audio of the authentic text in its entirety and in the sequence it was intended.

peacegirl, I know that "work" is a repugnant idea and a dirty word to people like you, but Chuck simply doesn't have the time. He's employed. He has a family. And when he's not tending to work or family he's busy providing exegesis of the Authentic Text and informing people of the innumerable errors in your Corrupted Text.

You should be grateful to Chuck. He's given you so much. Thanks to him, people are interested in the work of Seymour Lessans for the first time ever. Moreover, thanks to working people like Chuck, entitled layabouts such as yourself can spend your days drinking and squabbling with strangers on the Internet about efferent vision.

#TrueStewardship

[Vivisectus]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know what he said and I know what he meant. I was his daughter and I listened very carefully. My examples did not change the core principles. I know you want me to be wrong, but I'm not wrong. You just don't like the fact that I said vaccinations will never be mandatory in the new world. And you don't like the right of way system probably because you would have to admit things that may be counter-productive in your own life.

You seem to fail to grasp the problem. You assume that you correctly interpreted what your father wrote, and then treat this opinion as fact. The only assurance you offer is "I was his daughter and I listened very carefully". That is all well and good, but that does not mean you necessarily got it right.

Just like in the example of the doctor who should not pretend that he knows for sure what is best, you should not pretend you know for sure you got it right. You cannot know that: you did not discover these mathematically undeniable principles. You did not astutely observe the relations that have lain hidden behind the door that says "man's will is not free".

At most you can say "This is what I believe he meant, having read his writing to the best of my abilities. However, I am not free from biases, just like everyone else, and while I do not think this influenced my interpretation, it is of course possible this happened."

And since you cannot know for sure you are 100% correct, you should not change the text and sell it as your father's work. People should just read what he actually wrote, and then make up their own mind.

The irony is that you have done exactly what the book says is one of the things wrong with society today, and what would never happen in the new world: people claiming, out of professional pride, because they need to safeguard their position, or because they covet authority, to know for sure what they cannot know for sure. And just like you did, they do so with the best of intentions. It is just that they are in a system where this is required of them, and they do so really believing it is for the best.

And you have done this to a book that you believe can save all mankind: something far more far-reaching than any example in the book.

Originally Posted by Peacegirl

And you don't like the right of way system probably because you would have to admit things that may be counter-productive in your own life.

Given that I am broaching what for you must be a painful truth, I will not dwell on your speculations about my life, about which you know nothing at all.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

I'm sorry but that is not true. It is not my opinion of what he meant. Like I already said, most of the wording was his, not mine. What is in my book is straight from the horse's mouth. Because people don't like his claim regarding the eyes, they are doing all they can to decimate the book. They are taking everything out of context so that no one can understand what the main concepts even are.

He was very clear that God (the personal God) did not hand him this plan, although it was a revelation.

By a similar process of working our problem backwards we can
officially launch the Golden Age which necessitates the removal of all
forms of blame (the judgment of what is right for another) so that
each person knows he is completely free to do what he wants to do.
Although solving the problem of evil requires balancing an equation
of such magnitude, it is not difficult when we have our infallible slide
rule which God has given us as a guide. By now I hope you
understand that the word God is a symbol for the source of everything
that exists, whereas theology draws a line between good and evil using
the word God only as a symbol for the former. Actually no one gave
me this slide rule, that is, no one handed it to me, but the same force
that gave birth to my body and brain compelled me to move in the
direction of satisfaction and for me to be satisfied after reading Will
Durant’s analysis of free will it was necessary to disagree with what
obviously was the reasoning of logic, not mathematics. I was not
satisfied, which forced me to get rid of my dissatisfaction by proving
that this philosopher did not know whereof he spoke. To say that God
made me do this is equivalent to saying I was compelled, by my
nature, to move in this direction of greater satisfaction, which is
absolutely true.

It is not heavily redacted. The examples I gave and the few sentences or words I changed did not change the basic concept. That's all people can use against me because there's nothing else. I couldn't get newly copyrighted because there wasn't a fundamental change in the meaning.

You seem to fail to grasp the problem. You assume that you correctly interpreted what your father wrote, and then treat this opinion as fact. The only assurance you offer is "I was his daughter and I listened very carefully". That is all well and good, but that does not mean you necessarily got it right.

You're right, being his daughter does not mean I necessarily got it right. But being his daughter and listening to him for years and years, and reading all his books, does give me some credibility Vivisectus.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Just like in the example of the doctor who should not pretend that he knows for sure what is best, you should not pretend you know for sure you got it right. You cannot know that: you did not discover these mathematically undeniable principles. You did not astutely observe the relations that have lain hidden behind the door that says "man's will is not free".

The fact that I did not discover these mathematically undeniable principles does not mean I don't understand them, which is what you are implying. In the case of the doctor, he had no way of knowing what was right for that person, to take the medicine or let the body heal itself. The discovery that lies behind the door marked "man's will is not free" (the two-sided equation) is a factual observation and can be verified.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

At most you can say "This is what I believe he meant, having read his writing to the best of my abilities. However, I am not free from biases, just like everyone else, and while I do not think this influenced my interpretation, it is of course possible this happened."

But I'm not giving my interpretation other than adding a few examples that help clarify the extension of the principles. I have not altered the principles, nor have I changed the two-sided equation, which is the core of his discovery.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

And since you cannot know for sure you are 100% correct, you should not change the text and sell it as your father's work. People should just read what he actually wrote, and then make up their own mind.

But it IS my father's work. I just compiled all of his books and made them into one. Chuck is trying to make his earlier version look like nothing other than sleazy porno, not a discovery that can and will [eventually] change our world for the better.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

The irony is that you have done exactly what the book says is one of the things wrong with society today, and what would never happen in the new world: people claiming, out of professional pride, because they need to safeguard their position, or because they covet authority, to know for sure what they cannot know for sure. And just like you did, they do so with the best of intentions. It is just that they are in a system where this is required of them, and they do so really believing it is for the best.

I am not coveting authority, nor am I needing to safeguard my position due to pride. I believe he was right not because he was my father but because I saw, for myself, the truth of these principles. As far as the eyes are concerned (which unfortunately took this thread in a negative direction), more testing can be done to verify whether he was right or wrong. Let's leave it at that.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

And you have done this to a book that you believe can save all mankind: something far more far-reaching than any example in the book.

I have done nothing to the book other than adding some examples and changing the structure of a sentence (with the same exact meaning) or a word (photons). I could not get newly copyrighted because there were no fundamental changes.

Originally Posted by Peacegirl

And you don't like the right of way system probably because you would have to admit things that may be counter-productive in your own life.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Given that I am broaching what for you must be a painful truth, I will not dwell on your speculations about my life, about which you know nothing at all.

There is no painful truth that you are broaching. Sadly, though, this thread could have been so much more enlightening and interesting but instead it turned into a hateful witch hunt.

[Vivisectus]

You still haven't figured out how to use the quote function? What exactly was your response?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

You still haven't figured out how to use the quote function? What exactly was your response?

I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

People should just read what he actually wrote, and then make up their own mind.

And now, thanks entirely to ChuckF, we can do exactly that.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

[The Corrupted Text] is not heavily redacted.

I do not agree.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Chuck is trying to make his earlier version look like nothing other than sleazy porno

peacegirl, I think you know that's not true. I have provided - as a #TrueSteward must - thoughtful analysis and exegesis of the Authentic Text as a literary text that was heretofore entirely lacking. I have never characterized it as a "porno," though it occasionally rather skillfully uses sleaze as a literary device along the lines of Gore Vidal or Henry Miller (as davidm pointed out).

I am of the opinion that the Authentic Text is not and has never been in want of "compilation."

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Easily solved: simply quote the explanation!

Not the claim sight works like that, but the reason why we should believe it works that way. Or even better - how it actually works. What facts is the claim that sight works that way based on?

Surely it is good investigating to ask those fairly basic questions?

You are a fraud! You are joining the bandwagon of anti-Lessans rhetoric which is the justification you are using to be sleazy. You are the sleaze Chuck. You are no more a steward of this work than I an president of the United States.