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06-01-2021, 07:30 PM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
I DID eventually find it myself by speeding it up and skipping around, so thanks for murdering me!
That was mostly good, except that little bit at the beginning about Kevin Kelly. I'll admit I haven't read that book, but I have read a lot of his other stuff, and I can pretty much guarantee that that is an inappropriately literal and overly dismissive take. He denies it, but Kelly is actually fairly Luddish himself, despite his general tech utopianism, and when he talks about technologies, he's usually talking about general underlying technologies rather than specific implementations.
I have no doubt there's plenty to criticize, but I also have no doubt that his position is far more nuanced than what they're claiming.
The Luddites were not ignorant about or afraid of technology. If anything, they were probably the most technically adept with it. It's the exploitation they were fighting, not the tech. And that's just as relevant now, if not more.
The current situation goes back to how the technology adoption curve has been turned on its head. Just a couple decades ago, early adopters were mostly people who understood the technology they were adopting, so exploitative tech would be roundly mocked and pretty quickly fail; whereas now it seems like most early adopters are technically inept and willing to adopt things uncritically, so they're the ones driving demand now. And the "Luddites" are often people who understand the technology well enough to see the downsides of subscription models and software as a service and corporate surveillance. But none of the underlying technologies are bad in themselves. It's the implementation that's the problem.
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06-01-2021, 10:55 PM
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I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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“You never buy the software, you’re always leasing it”
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This reminds me of something that could go in the capitalist dystopia thread.
Cricut now requires subscription to fully use device.
Cricut is limiting the use of its crafting machines with a monthly subscription - The Verge
The short, designs made in other programs need to be translated into proprietary CriCut code, this is done by a cloud based app that you upload too, and then download a Cricut file, with optional access to premade files requiring a subscription. Now CriCut has decided to limit the ‘free’ required app to 20 uploads a month or less without a subscription. As far as I can tell there’s no reason the app needs to be online at all, nothing that needs intensive cloud processing or large amounts of storage.
Since the announcement, outcry has led to them grandfathering in older machines, but the pay a subscription to uncripple their software is their model going forward.
I presume the future is going to be filled with piles of fully functional devices that refuses to turn on because the server they check into has long since been scrapped if it doesn’t just redirect to malware.
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08-24-2021, 04:30 PM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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12-09-2021, 06:36 PM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
QUESTION: Are pharmacies just allowed to sell lists of their customers' contact information to non-covered entities? I always thought HIPAA prevented covered entities from even acknowledging someone was a patient/customer, even if they didn't disclose any specific medical information. But I think I learned that from Law & Order or something, so.
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12-09-2021, 06:39 PM
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California Sober
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
IANAL or even remotely knowledgeable on the topic, but I'm going to spout off anyway because it's more fun than doing actual work.
You know those rewards cards you can get from the Walgreens, or even the grocery store slash pharmacy, that track your purchase data, that they definitely sell? Is there some kind of clause in the TOS of those that we have agreed to that says they can sell our prescription medicine activity?
I would really like to hope that they can't just bury a "you waive your HIPAA rights" thing in the middle of the thing they know you're not going to read before you hit OK, but I would really like to hope lots of things that aren't so.
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12-09-2021, 07:05 PM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
I'm pretty sure those probably do have a HIPAA waiver, which is why I don't use them at the pharmacy.
What happened is that I got a fucking GoodRX card in the mail, with my name and an individual identifier on it, and NO DISCLOSURE at all. Just some small print with the URL for their privacy policy. GoodRX is not a covered entity, and their privacy policy does waive your HIPAA rights to any medical information they capture. And you "agree" to this by using the card. The card that you got, unsolicited, in the mail, with your name on it and no disclosure of this at all.
I'm about 95% sure that pharmacy provided my contact info at least to them for marketing, based on the pattern in my very small sample group of who got these cards and who didn't. The only people so far who've gotten those cards were people who use that pharmacy and don't use those cards already.
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02-25-2022, 05:28 PM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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03-09-2022, 06:24 PM
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TrueCaller exploited India's weak data laws to build a caller ID empire - Rest of World
I've gotten Cassandraed trying to warn people about this app. I wish I remembered where, but it's been years, well before it was a system app, and they were also doing this in the US at least, if not elsewhere.
Ownership of personally identifying information is a huge issue that needs legal protections, but people act all oblivious about it. Like when Zuckerberg lied to congress by pretending he didn't know what a shadow profile was, so they did nothing about it.
These assholes mine your personal data from other people's contacts, and unless you make an account and agree to their terms, you can't even see it.
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03-09-2022, 08:18 PM
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Solipsist
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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I've gotten Cassandraed trying to warn people about
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Story of your life ...
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03-10-2022, 05:08 AM
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A Very Gentle Bort
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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Quote:
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I've gotten Cassandraed trying to warn people about
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Story of your life ...
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I don't believe her.
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04-11-2022, 03:53 PM
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Yessss! It is about damned time someone did this. (Someone with bigger media reach than LaTanya Sweeney, anyways.)
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04-11-2022, 05:35 PM
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Solipsist
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
Please accept this virtual [thanks] for something which looks good but which the uploader has not made available in this country although I can in principle catch up with it on my Sky subscription which I will probably cancel anyway.
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04-11-2022, 05:53 PM
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Dagnabbit.
Here's an article that covers most of it. He does a background thing about data brokers and how they gather and sell data, and why politicians are not inclined to pass laws preventing it. Then he reveals that they ran a kind of honeypot targeting lawmakers, and was able to put together some dossiers on their internet activities.
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04-11-2022, 07:46 PM
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Dancing redshirt
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
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Please accept this virtual [thanks] for something which looks good but which the uploader has not made available in this country although I can in principle catch up with it on my Sky subscription which I will probably cancel anyway.
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You can watch the episode on Thursday.
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06-16-2022, 04:14 PM
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Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites – The Markup
Of course they are, and it is not a mistake or an oversight. Cambridge Analytica temporarily interrupted an ongoing project they had where they were partnering with hospitals to deidentify patient charts and link them to Facebook accounts. They've been trying to bust medical data out of HIPAA bound institutions for ages.
(On which note, we are getting inundated with GoodRX cards in the mail for anyone--living or dead--who doesn't have one already, so it's a race to see who gets you first.)
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06-16-2022, 08:51 PM
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Pontificating Old Fart
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
Eh, back in the newsfroup days, I had a few different names, and used them for different groups. Now, I'm just me.
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08-06-2022, 12:06 AM
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Admin
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08-07-2022, 01:32 AM
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A Very Gentle Bort
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Thread not required. Ring and Nest are bad enough all by themselves and that's before they'll just up and send data to the fucking pigs without a warrant.
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08-07-2022, 01:43 AM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
We bought a Nest doorbell and thermostat before Google acquired it, and it is ok, but the app has become terrible since the acquisition. The thermostat is thoroughly mediocre. I love the idea of a robot vacuum, but before the cat died he occasionally missed the box when pooping and I had visions of a robot just dragging it all over the house. Now that the cat is dead I'm worried the dogs would hate it, or that it would simply choke to death on dog hair and burst into flames, Tesla-style.
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08-07-2022, 12:23 PM
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Admin
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My sister bought us one as a housewarming gift and I like it, but I almost never run it because I'm too lazy to go around picking up everything it might get hung up on, closing the doors so it doesn't trap itself in the bathroom (again), etc. If I have to walk all over the house anyway I might as well be pushing a vacuum!
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08-08-2022, 11:51 PM
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THIS IS REALLY ADVANCED ENGLISH
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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We have one of the non-Roomba models, and it was OK until we overcharged it. No post-consumer accessible parts, including the battery.
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08-20-2022, 12:52 AM
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
I am painfully aware that I am a crank, but I don't care. I'm just telling everyone so, so that later, when you all come crying, I can refer back.
I bought tickets to a show from Ticketmaster months ago. They're no longer selling paper tickets or even print at home. (Fucking vultures used COVID as an excuse, like, they'll sell tickets to crowded shows where people are shoulder to shoulder, yelling and shit, but Gosh Forbid you hand us a paper ticket instead of letting us manhandle your phone that you probably bring to the toilet with you, and also probably just licked.)
So you have to buy e-tickets, which: Fine. I just print out the stupid QR code(s). Whatever.
So the show is coming up on Tuesday. Fine. I have the QR code.
Last night, though, I get an email reminder that I didn't ask them for, and as a casual aside, they mention that they cannot scan the QR codes on paper or even on the website, so you have to download and use their app.
Well, fuck. Also, what the hell is the app doing beyond showing the QR code? (Want to hear something QUAINT AS FUCK? Once upon a time, people knew not to click on blind links!)
So I go to the download link to see the app. As you may or may not know, Google stopped even showing you the permissions that apps require. Developers are supposed to explain them, like, freeform now. But of course, Ticketmaster hasn't bothered. You have to install the app first so it will be a surprise. But I have Aurora store, which is like a fork that still shows them. It's everything. Your location, even in background. Your contacts, calendar, storage, camera, mic, it can make calls and send emails without your knowledge, everything. Plus it's got a ton of advertising trackers.
And they tell me this a few days before the show. And of course, the tickets aren't returnable.
My current plan is to charge this old wifi Fire tablet I have, factory reset it just in case, install Play, and see if I can get the app on there.
First, though, when I get there, I'll see if they can even scan the QR code from the webpage because I am very curious if it's true that that won't work.
If worse comes to worst, I'm going to put the app on Matlock's phone.
But also.
CALIFORNIA PEOPLE! Do you have this app? Can you make Ticketmaster send you your data? I will write you a custom poem on any topic, in any formal style (sonnet, sestina, haiku, limerick, etc.) you choose if you will do this for me and tell me what they've collected on you.
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08-20-2022, 03:14 AM
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I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
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Lol wut? That sounds bullshit. The whole idea of QR codes is that you should be able knit the damn thing on a blanket, make a few mistakes and the thing should still read correctly.
But oh man, let me tell you this whole QR code revolution, where we’re training people to point their device at human unreadable patterns that could potentially contain executable code makes me twitchy.
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08-20-2022, 05:16 AM
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Shitpost Sommelier
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Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization
Hey Ari, want some snow crash?
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10-12-2022, 02:35 AM
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