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10-27-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: Ze Plane! Ze Plane!
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I'm a private pilot too. So private I don't have a license.
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10-28-2011, 10:42 PM
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10-29-2011, 04:52 AM
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Re: Ze Plane! Ze Plane!
There was so much cool stuff on the first page it came in too fast to comment on much. I will try to rectifry that over the next little bit..
@ Ceptimus, thanks for the 262 vid. I know the Germans have been redoing some old planes full scale, I know they did a FW-190 project. Maybe I remember a 262 project also, but not sure.
Those turbine models are something else, they are really involved. Master work, really.
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10-29-2011, 06:33 PM
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Merkans! The Me-262 project is in Texas. I now have a motive for trying to become obscenely wealthy. Fark!
Me 262 Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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10-29-2011, 06:53 PM
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Re: Ze Plane! Ze Plane!
My sweetheart, the workhorse of the new imperium:
I've a soft spot for this bird because I had an uncle who flew them in southern Europe and then, when stationed in post-war Europe, he flew the Berlin Airlift.
I'll bet that there is still somebody, somewhere, flying these bucket of bolts.
ETA: Yes, indeed, there are still revenue flights with operating DC-3 craft! A decent list, no less.
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10-29-2011, 06:59 PM
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Thanks godfrey, another legend. I can say off the top of my head they are still in commercial use. Prove me wrong, peoples, go ahead, prove me wrong.
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10-29-2011, 11:04 PM
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Godfry's post reminded me that my dad used to work at Lockheed on these birds:
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10-29-2011, 11:57 PM
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Re: Ze Plane! Ze Plane!
I once had dreams of winning the lottery and traveling the world in my own personal C-130 Hercules.
I also used to work on these:
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10-30-2011, 12:16 AM
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I live close to a MAC base, so we see those a lot. Last winter one of these KC's flew over our club airfield. Sometimes the new big cargo planes look like they should fall right out of the sky when they're low and slow, they are SO BIG.
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11-01-2011, 02:38 AM
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11-01-2011, 03:03 AM
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I visited the crash site not long after this happened. (By visit, I mean got as close as they would allow, which wasn't all that close.)
Thankfully, everyone survived, so it's easy to joke about it now: My roommate and I laugh about the pilot (or instructor pilot, dunno who) who says "Guys, I'm concerned."
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11-02-2011, 05:56 PM
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I live close to a MAC base, so we see those a lot. Last winter one of these KC's flew over our club airfield. Sometimes the new big cargo planes look like they should fall right out of the sky when they're low and slow, they are SO BIG.
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Oooh, that reminds me. Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield park is in the flight path for Dobbins ARB. You can sit in the fields by the Illinois Monument and watch the planes in holding patterns. Plus, you know, the F-22 is built at Lockheed there and when they test one you can watch it fly. It usually has an F-16 escort. I have some photos around here somewhere, I wonder if I can find them...
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11-02-2011, 06:05 PM
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I visited the crash site not long after this happened. (By visit, I mean got as close as they would allow, which wasn't all that close.)
Thankfully, everyone survived, so it's easy to joke about it now: My roommate and I laugh about the pilot (or instructor pilot, dunno who) who says "Guys, I'm concerned."
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Yeah, it's funny how those guys just maintain, even when everything is going to crap. Glad nobody was killed in that. I drive by Dover once in a while. You were stationed there or just passing through? I stopped in to see the museum and take some pics. I'll post some now and then.
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11-02-2011, 06:08 PM
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I live close to a MAC base, so we see those a lot. Last winter one of these KC's flew over our club airfield. Sometimes the new big cargo planes look like they should fall right out of the sky when they're low and slow, they are SO BIG.
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Oooh, that reminds me. Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield park is in the flight path for Dobbins ARB. You can sit in the fields by the Illinois Monument and watch the planes in holding patterns. Plus, you know, the F-22 is built at Lockheed there and when they test one you can watch it fly. It usually has an F-16 escort. I have some photos around here somewhere, I wonder if I can find them...
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Lucky duck! I don't think I've seen one of the F-22's in real life yet.
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11-03-2011, 01:44 PM
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My older brother is a pilot, now for a commercial airline, but for a couple of decades in the military. Post-training, he flew helicopters at first (SAR in Voyageurs), then various fixed wing special items, including the remaining Dak-o-saurus in the CAF. Most of his time was flying Hercs, eventually, especially in a refueling role.
His buddies from training who had gone into fighters would use our farm as a turnaround point on training flights, just to say hi (a lot of them had come out for a home-cooked meal on various holidays), so we got to see a fair number of flyovers from CF-104s and then CF-18s when I was a younker.
When I was in grade school, my brother (who had been out to a nearby base for exercises) landed his CH-47 Chinook in our schoolyard and let the kids come out and take a look. Regs were a bit looser back then, especially in the hinterlands where we lived -- I doubt this would be easy to arrange/keep quiet these days.
Had a funny experience a couple of years ago, when I had been out to visit him, and then he was flying the plane on my return home. A woman behind me tapped my shoulder during the flight to ask if flying was always so rough -- first-time flyer, and pretty nervous. (In fact the flight was almost perfectly smooth, but a minute or two of washboard bumps had her a bit alarmed.) I told her it was no problem, and added that my brother was flying the plane, and that he really was extraordinarily good at his job. It was clear that she thought I was bullshitting her (which probably meant she didn't believe me about there being no need for concern). Then she was standing near me at the baggage carousel when my brother came out and walked over -- we look nearly identical, save that he's a bit taller. She actually came over and apologized for not believing me. I told her I wasn't offended -- it does sound pretty implausible, all things considered.
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11-06-2011, 03:01 AM
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p. cool vid of 24 hour global air traffic. It's the same one in the 7 billion mortals thread, in case you already saw it.
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11-07-2011, 12:54 AM
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Built a couple of plastic models myself.
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A-10 Warthog
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11-07-2011, 04:25 AM
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The P-38 is a beautiful bird. I have a picture of one on my cube wall, as well as some flying boats. The best of those being a PBY Catalina.
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11-08-2011, 10:10 PM
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It's cool that you keep plane pictures at work. More P-38 pics. The first one is a model. I like the non bubble canopy of the Mustang shown too. P-51B.
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11-08-2011, 10:33 PM
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That non-bubble canopy makes the P-51B Mustang look a lot like the older and heavier P-40 Warhawk/Tomahawk/Kittyhawk, which was another pre-war design that managed to 'succeed' because the pilots figured out how to use its 'flaws' in their favor. Plus, it could seemingly take all sorts of damage and just keep on flying.
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11-08-2011, 11:21 PM
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Yep, it was a kind of a dog until the Brits strapped a Merlin to it. I still like the look of the old style canopy.
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11-08-2011, 11:38 PM
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11-09-2011, 12:16 AM
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Yep, it was a kind of a dog until the Brits strapped a Merlin to it. I still like the look of the old style canopy.
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I read a great deal about American volunteers in China prior to Pearl Harbor, particularly the Flying Tigers, the American Volunteer Group, under General C. Chennault. They found out that the lightweight Mitzubishi Zero was faster and more maneuverable than the P-40, but not nearly as heavy (armor for the pilot, for one) and could not survive multiple hits like the P-40 could. One thing they would do was tempt a Zero pilot to follow them in a balls-to-the-walls nose-down dive (in which the heavy P-40 was faster) and then pull up as near to the ground as they could....the result being that either the Zero couldn't pull up, or, if it tried, it would start, and sometimes finish, falling apart.
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11-09-2011, 09:00 PM
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When I was a lad of 11 or 12, I built a Revell™ model plane called the Lockheed YF-12A, which was basically the same thing as the SR-71 Blackbird. But, the YF-12A was an interceptor prototype, a warbird not a spy plane, to be armed with air-to-air missiles. A system was installed that allowed missile launch at supersonic speeds. One successful missile launch test took place at Mach 3.2 at 74,000 ft altitude. Take that Comrade General Gant!
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11-10-2011, 08:21 PM
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I had a look and the only aircraft pics from Dobbins are attached. The F-22 is a bit poor, I wish I could find the one I shot where it was the 22 and an F-16.
Edit: I really should have wiped off the scanner first.
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