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Did the specific photons (at the camera when the photograph is taken) exist immediately before the photograph was taken?
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The photons at the camera existed at the object. The (P) reflected light is present as long as the object is in view. Therefore, if the object is part of our field of view, the mirror image will show up instantly at the film/retina. Why can't you understand what I'm saying?  |
I do understand what you're saying. But I don't think you do. You've just said that the photons teleport themselves from the object to the camera film. |
How can they teleport when the (P) reflection from the object is there as long as the object is in range (optics)? You're having a problem believing that a mirror image is what is happening, so you keep thinking that red comes before blue. |
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is teleportation. You have photons at the surface of the blue ball at one moment and then instantly at the surface of the distant film at the next moment. That is teleportation by definition.
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And if there are two cameras both pointing at the same object, can you tell me which of those two camera films a given photon will go to? Or will it simultaneously exist at both film locations?
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The reflected light will be coming from different angles, so the mirror image on the film of each camera will be slightly different. |
What does that have to do with what I just asked? You have a blue photon in existence at the camera film when the photo is taken. You said that at the previous moment it was at the blue ball's surface. At that moment, if there had been
two cameras pointing at the ball, how would the photon have known which one to instantly go to? Would the same photon have turned up at both camera films?
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And if the blue photons are disappearing from the object's surface to appear instantly at one or more camera films, then they aren't still there at the object to bounce off as part of (N)reflected sunlight. So how can that (N)reflected sunlight still be full spectrum? The blue part of that spectrum will have teleported itself away to any and all nearby cameras.
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In a mirror image there are no photons leaving the surface, so how can the blue part of the spectrum teleport itself? That's what you are failing to understand. |
You have blue-wavelength photons disappearing from the surface of the object (not from any mirror image) and appearing instantly at the film. That means they are not still there near the ball as part of the full spectrum light bouncing off the ball. So that light won't be full spectrum.
If you don't want any of the photons at the film to have previously just left the surface of the object, then you gave me the wrong answer in post #5409 where you said that the photons at the camera previously existed at the object. If they were at the object just before, and are now at the film, then they aren't still at the object's surface (and if they were then that would make them stationary again).