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Originally Posted by davidm
Lessans claimed we see in real-time. Anyone with an ordinary inexpensive telescope who points it at the moons of Jupiter can DISPROVE real-time seeing. We walked you through this step-by-step repeatedly, and in the end you were forced to agree that the moons of Jupiter example refuted real-time seeing.
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David, I think you ought to go back and review that particular exchange. I don't think that peacegirl actually agreed that the moons of Jupiter example truly refuted real-time seeing. I think, if I recall the exchange correctly, that what she did was misuse the term 'refutation' in much the same manner as she has misused other terms. On any number of occasions she has responded to arguments that purport to refute some point or other by referring to those arguments as refutations while it was quite clear from the context that she did not think that those arguments were actually presuasive. In other words, for her the term 'refutation' is just a word that is used to represent an opposing argument and her use of the term should not be taken to imply that she thinks the argument constitutes an effective refutation (in the sense that most of us understand that term) of the point at issue. I think that if one were willing to read her posts charitably one should insert the word 'alleged' every time that peacegirl refers to one of her interlocutor's arguments as a refutation.