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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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You think elementary and rather silly religious apologetics are going to be remotely convincing here at  ?
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We have found that there are 999,999,999 chances to one against a belief that all things happen by chance.
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Who's we? How did he arrive at that figure? Was he aware that as long as the possibility is > 0 then whatever it is WILL necessarily happen given large enough numbers of chances (and the Universe offers many, many, many billions of "chances")
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Well, do you still believe there is no Supreme Intelligence guiding this universe through mathematical laws
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Yes, I still believe that. Now what? |
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Lessans wrote a whole lot of stuff about it, what do you mean it doesn't matter? And if they were someone else's words why the hell wasn't it cited, either in a footnote or bibliography? Never have I read a non-fiction book that had no list of citations or references like this.
Are these also Morrisons words not Lessans?
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This discussion on chance brings forcibly to the attention of the
reader the fact that this world did not come about by chance. The
purpose of this book is to prove undeniably that there is design to the
universe.
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You were attributing certain words to Lessans that clearly came from Morrison. There was a quote and an unquote. Did you not see this?
The belief in free will was compelled to remain in power until the
present time because no one had conclusive proof that determinism
was true, nor could anyone slay the fiery dragon which seemed like an
impossible feat. Is it any wonder that Johnson didn’t want to get into
this matter any further? Is it any wonder Durant never went beyond
the vestibule? Are you beginning to recognize why it has been so
difficult to get this knowledge thoroughly investigated? Since the
modern world of science was playing havoc with religion it needed a
boost and along came, just in the nick of time, a scientist who gave
seven reasons why he believed in God. A. Cressy Morrison, who wrote
his book, “Man Does Not Stand Alone,” was almost convinced that
God was a reality. He challenged Julian Huxley’s conclusions written
in his book, “Man Stands Alone.” Both tried to answer the question,
“Is there a Supreme Intelligence guiding this universe?” Who is
right? Huxley said ‘no there isn’t,’ but Morrison’s arguments were
mathematically sound and he gave quite a boost to instilling faith
again in those people who were really beginning to wonder. I can
almost remember word for word how he tried to prove that nothing
happens by chance, and he did prove it except for this element of evil.
It went something like this:
“Chance seems erratic, unexpected and subject to no method of
calculation......The argument is closed; the case is submitted
to you, the jury, and your verdict will be awaited with confidence.”