National Constitutional Convention

[godfry n. glad]

So...Reverand Huckabee wants to amend the US Constitution so that it more accurately reflects the "standards of the living God". Aside from the questions of where it's living and how it gets along with its neighbors, is there a dead God? Who is the arbiter of said standards? Mike hissef?

So, how 'bout we do that National Constitutional Convention thang? I'm agreeable with Blake (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11581) on this of late...and, what with the Rev Mike piping up and all, maybe we ought to talk about it again. He's got his agenda, which I'm not too keen on. It seems to me that we could undertake not only the initiatives Blake recommends, but pursue some political goals not widely discussed. I, for example, think the United States has grown too big, too powerful, and just too imbued with hubris that it needs to be reduced to several smaller nations. I think this should be pursued at a new National Constitutional Convention. Sort of the reverse European Union.....make what is now the US into several smaller nations. Then, each nation can frame their own constitution.

Hail, Cascadia!

What does it take to get started?

[Freddy]

So...Reverand Huckabee wants to amend the US Constitution so that it more accurately reflects the "standards of the living God". Aside from the questions of where it's living and how it gets along with its neighbors, is there a dead God? Who is the arbiter of said standards? Mike hissef?

So, how 'bout we do that National Constitutional Convention thang? I'm agreeable with Blake (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11581) on this of late...and, what with the Rev Mike piping up and all, maybe we ought to talk about it again. He's got his agenda, which I'm not too keen on. It seems to me that we could undertake not only the initiatives Blake recommends, but pursue some political goals not widely discussed. I, for example, think the United States has grown too big, too powerful, and just too imbued with hubris that it needs to be reduced to several smaller nations. I think this should be pursued at a new National Constitutional Convention. Sort of the reverse European Union.....make what is now the US into several smaller nations. Then, each nation can frame their own constitution.

Hail, Cascadia!

What does it take to get started?
This has not happened and never will. It is insane! Think Reverand Huckabee! Anything can be proposed at one.

From wikipedia:

Convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution As provided for in Article V of the U.S. Constitution, two-thirds of the states would initiate the convention for proposing amendment(s), thus bypassing the U.S. Government headquartered in Washington, D.C. To date such a convention has never convened, although the various states have submitted hundreds of applications down through the decades.

[godfry n. glad]

Oh, I am thinking of Reverand Huckabee, and I want to be in a different country than he is...without moving.

I used to think like you, Freddy, but the more I thought about it and the more I wished to avoid a nasty and protracted civil war, the more I thought that a Constitutional Convention might be the answer. And you're right, if the prior experience is any guide, any goddamn thing can come out of it.

I am thinking of Diebold and want them out of my country's voting process....without moving.

I am thinking of the assinine economic and foreign policy and wish to separate from it....without moving.

Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't. I like where I live, I just don't care for the policies of the country in which I live. I've tried all my life to change those policies, but to no avail. The time has come to legally and peacefully break up the US into smaller nations, so that the average voter has more say over what happens to his/her tax dollars and governance.

Wow....Always making with the negative waves, Freddy; always with the negative waves.

Blake?

[Freddy]

I hear what you are saying, but too many see the possible cure as a way to destroy the Constitution. Offering individual amendments through the usual process can do minimal damage. At a Constitutional Convention multiple amendments could be offered up which is the main reason why people are fearful of it. Since 1789 it has never been tried. Look at the general response to Huckabee's proposal. Outside of the evangelistic folks virtually no one will support it. Thirty-three states would have to call for it. I do not think I am negative, rather pragmatic.

[godfry n. glad]

I hear what you are saying, but too many see the possible cure as a way to destroy the Constitution. Offering individual amendments through the usual process can do minimal damage. At a Constitutional Convention multiple amendments could be offered up which is the main reason why people are fearful of it. Since 1789 it has never been tried. Look at the general response to Huckabee's proposal. Outside of the evangelistic folks virtually no one will support it. Thirty-three states would have to call for it. I do not think I am negative, rather pragmatic.


We need to do something before the kleptocratic plutocrats take it from us, if they haven't already.

[godfry n. glad]

:bump:

[eric1]

Actually a serious effort to convene a National Constitutional Convention has been underway for some time now. The ultimate aim of this Convention, as envisioned, will be the dismantlement of the federal government in its present configuration, and then reassemblement at the regional level. In essence, 10(# flexible) independent republics would be established on American soil(state borders intact), EACH WITH THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS AS THE BASIS OF THEIR NEW GOVERNMENTS. Liken this to the breakup of AT&T into the baby bells some years back. This action has become necessary to diffuse the power of the largely self-serving globalist oligarchy which has HIJACKED our federal government, bringing this nation to the verge of ECONOMIC and SOCIAL ruin, while GREATLY compromising our national security. It's time for AUTONOMOUS REGIONAL GOVERNMENT!! See link below for more info:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NationalConstitutionalConvention06

[ChuckF]

Interesting idea. Can you give us some more information about how the borders of the new republics would be determined, and how federal resources (like the military infrastructure, for example) would be apportioned among them?

[Dingfod]

Colonel Andrei Denisov approves.

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